SvennoJ said:
RolStoppable said:
It seems that vaccination has hit a block in the road in most (or all?) developed countries. No shortage of vaccines anymore, but a shortage of people who are willing to get their shots.
I just hope there's no stubborn insistence that the world has to become corona-free, but that instead we move on to accept that corona will continue to be around and won't have to deal with nonsensical measures anymore.
People who refuse to get a vaccination may be a potential problem for spreading the virus, but as I understand it, the only people who are in actual continued danger of current and future spreads are unvaccinated people, because vaccinated people at the very least are safe from severe symptoms even in the case that they do get infected. If people choose the risk of a severe infection for themselves, then let them. The world has no obligation to protect people's lives who don't want to be protected; if a construction worker refused to wear a helmet during his job and eventually died from something falling on his head, then we are clearly looking at a case of a person whose life wasn't worth protecting because they didn't care about their own safety in the first place.
Somehow I don't quite manage to make this post flow to my actual conclusion that our modern society has had things backwards. What strikes me as incredibly stupid about all these corona measures we've had is that the young generation was sacrificed for the very old generation. This is as if in the sinking ship analogy the crew would declare that the least important lives should be saved first instead of children and women.
Apologies for this being more of a rant than well-constructed writing.
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You have that backwards. The experimental, rushed out vaccines were first approved for the 'least important' lives, the old, the frail (which are also the most at risk). Currently the vaccines are still held back to under 12 just in case...
Break through cases are a reality, kids can die of covid as well (or have lasting symptoms), new variants will be created by letting evolution do its work. Vaccinated people aren't all safe and some people can't get vaccinated due to underlying conditions. The original point of the vaccines was to create herd immunity to get rid of Covid-19 yet then the delta variant came along since we couldn't keep it under control in the mean time. Partly because of the younger generation not willing to do their part in social distancing and lock downs.
We'll still have to deal with 'nonsensical' measures since hospitals have not been improved much at all in the past year to deal with the higher volume of patients. And now we already need booster shots trying to keep further waves down and people from needing hospital care.
As long as fun is more important than lives, we certainly won't get rid of any pandemic. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-infection-rate-skyrocketing-in-s-d-following-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-1.5565172
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Just to ponder.
I wonder how many vaxed drivers have stupidly or mistakenly crashed and killed unvaxed drivers?
Good thing countrywide/worldwide transportation lockdowns will be put into effect though right? Too bad the unvaxed drivers weren't vaxed right?
This is the problem.
What if the unvaxed drivers weren't wearing their seatbelt though? Do we still lockdown or do we just call them idiots and move on?
What if the unvaxed driver got ejected into the vaxed drivers vehicle, killing both?
Shut the roadways down? Forced seatbelts somehow? Some drivers in crashes who can't get out due to belt issues and die because of it?
People die everyday for so many different reasons and most people are accustomed to it. Only so much can be done to stop death in general, and people will only go so far to stop it individually. That's 8 billion different people at that. Diversity can be a great strength but also a great weakness.
The right answer is that unfortunately there is no right answer. Just a choice between more freedom or more safety overall.
Last edited by EricHiggin - on 30 August 2021