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Alistair said:
Mnementh said:

If the Switch would have been a Series S like console instead, Nintendo would be dead (or close to it). Switch sold 80M units. A series S like console would be sell far less, as we see - well the Series S. While some Nintendo fans would be pleased to play their favourite games in 4K, the console wouldn't have catched on fire with the overall population as much as the Switch did.

That's not true, that's just empty speculation. Nintendo hasn't made a normal console since the Gamecube era and they were facing the DVD juggernaut that was Sony.

Also nobody said you can't have a Switch and a Series S style console for playing Switch games at 4k/60 at the same time.

What do you mean nobody said you can’t have a Switch and a Series S style console for Switch games? I’d guess the fact you need two completely different types of chipsets (CISC vs RISC) makes it unfeasible.

And it’s not empty speculation, there’s data. The reason GameCube got crushed was because it was a PS2 clonebox. These sorts of consoles aren’t popular, most people don’t want a second junior playstation.

On the other hand, look at Nintendo’s systems that WEREN’T PlayStation cloneboxes: the DS, the Wii, the Switch, three of Nintendo’s four best selling consoles of all time. Gameboy would be the other top 4, and it was, once again, another one that did its own thing rather than what Microsoft or someone else was successfully doing at the time already. NES was another fresh new console that dominated the market, but I’m getting off track.

The point is, it’s not empty speculation, we have literally decades worth of data that show Cloneboxes not doing well, and more original concepts doing extremely well.

But either way, it’s not like Nintendo isn’t on track to exceed the competition in power anyway: and with a Switch-style hybrid rather than a clonebox of some PC-like console. ARM-based SOCs are the fastest advancing hardware in terms of power, anyway. M1 is the first in the most promising line of chips on the market, and it’s an SOC based on ARM - a cousin of Nintendo Switch’s custom Tegra chipset (just many times more powerful due to being 4-5 years newer).

Last edited by Jumpin - on 12 March 2021

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