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Barozi on 11 September 2020
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Amnesia said:
Barozi said:

"they never stopped living normally"

You mean aside from having a bigger economic decline and higher unemployment rate than the other Nordic countries?

"they have made their largest number of test last week, conclusion, it is nearly over there"

"Over the past week the country carried out more than 120,000 tests, of which only 1.3 per cent identified the disease."

Germany's been below 1.3% since the end of May (with one week in between slightly above it at 1.37%). That's hardly an impressive number and shows just how much worse the Swedes handled it. I didn't check the numbers but I think Denmark, Norway and Finland had a much much lower number than Germany even.

And let's not talk about the death rate which is 5 times higher than Denmark, 9 times higher than Finland and almost 12 times higher than Norway...

As a french, I am just seeing that Sweden had as much death approx. as Italy and France, and yet they had no full lock down, and they could and are still living without mask. Today the 2nd wave doesn't take off in Sweden and it does in France. I am spared now from all this hysteria because I live in a far area of Hungary, but I am seriously considering searching a job in Sweden now.

You're not thinking...at all.

You're comparing two countries from different regions. Compare Sweden to Norway, Denmark and Finland. They are far more similar in climate, wealth and mentality. They also share borders and thus the people there have more working and loving relations.

France borders Spain and Italy and they have a direct connection to the UK. All of these regions were hit the hardest and you're surprised that France is worse off than many other European states and just slightly better than Sweden?

Also you're not even considering what would've happened in France if they didn't go into lockdown and forced mask wearing. I told you what happened in Sweden's neighboring states in my previous post - several times lower death rates. Using the same multiplier for France, it's not unlikely to assume that their death toll would be 100k-300k without these measures.

You can't have a 2nd wave if the first isn't over. France and many other countries were trending down much earlier than Sweden, while Sweden finally "ended" their first wave. That doesn't mean that there won't be a 2nd wave in Sweden. You'd be incredibly naive to assume that. Just as naive as to assume that there won't be a 3rd, a 4th or a 5th wave in any other country until a vaccine is ready.

Last edited by Barozi - on 11 September 2020