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Jpcc86 said:
CGI-Quality said:

This kind of post is where problems start.

You cannot know how people feel deep down, so it doesn't make much sense to use it as a talking point. Yes, I agree Microsoft should listen to feedback, but they have tried (particularly of late). 

Lastly, sure, if the Xbox was in a different market position, the reception here would probably be stronger, but the 'kick them while their down' approach that some take has been destructive.

A while ago I saw someone respond a thread about "what do you expect from the upcoming Xbox console" (Or I think that was the topic, dont remember well) with something in the lines of "If it fails, I'd be very happy if Microsoft/Xbox retires from the gaming industry altogether and their IP are distributed between Sony and Nintendo" and someone called him out for posting a "hit and go" comment (or something of the sort, I dont recall the exact wording, its something ive only read about in this forum) I wouldnt presume to know what that person's intentions were, but that comment stuck with me because that is literally the same sentiment I have, I too would be very happy if - in the scenario that XboxX fails - Microsoft/Xbox retires from the gaming industry altogether and their IP are distributed between Sony and Nintendo. And he got called out for saying it and that felt weird. Its not something I'd say casually to trigger a reaction or with any mean or "destructive" intent. It is my genuine opinion. It is a scenario that would please me, however drastic, fictional or unrealistic. 

My point being, "I think some Xbox fans just take things too personal." is a valid concern. You are right, if the Xbox was in a different market position, the reception here would probably be stronger, but since they are not, its very hard or even unavoidable to have those kind of conversations. 

MS is already making their games accessible to a huge range of people. You can play their games on Xbox, PC, you'll be able to stream them to just about anything with a screen in the near future, and really, if Sony and Nintendo would allow it, there's probably a high chance that MS would make GamePass available to some extent on those platforms as well.

If you think it's reasonable to go into Xbox topics with the attitude of, "I wish they'd just kinda go away and be third party," then I hereby submit that it's far more reasonable for me to go into every PS topic with the attitude that they should bugger off and be third party. After all, they're not even making the best console hardware anymore, right? What's the point of them?