Hynad said:
EricHiggin said:
Out of context? What it really says?
"This kind of hate"?
What kind exactly? Since that's not explained by him. If he's referring to something else, then that allows for, interpretation.
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Are you kidding me?
What kind exactly? Right? What kind? I mean, seriously... The tweet clearly doesn't make it obvious. What with the examples given and all that.
So really, what kind?
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Bad faith much?
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It's almost like people need to be clear about things they say and portray and explain them well, even in just the right way, for others to understand in a manner that they may agree with. It's almost like if you don't do that, people have no choice but to interpret what you put in front of them, in which they may see things differently to some degree, and may disagree with the intended meaning.
Why some can get away with poor etiquette by being vague, while others can't however, is still a mystery...
Torillian said:
EricHiggin said:
It's his Twitter account as well, not ND's correct? Being one of the problems doesn't mean he's the entire problem, only a portion, large or small.
Neil also heavily implies that TLOU2 was entertaining and popular before it was even released. "Unfortunately, this is now the cost of making popular entertainment that challenges conventions".
No Neil. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Just because you and your team thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread during development, doesn't mean that's what the players will think. It's the audience who decides whether something is entertaining, and the higher the overall positivity towards the medium, the larger the audience should grow, in which the more popular it will be said to be.
Neil is clearly taking it quite personally, and there may be more than a few reasons for that which impact him personally, but it's not how he should be conveying his defense to the naysayers. At the very least, he should simply agree to disagree if he won't just ignore it, especially based on the position he holds.
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He's not calling his project popular and entertaining he is saying that it, as a AAA video game, is part of popular entertainment. Big budget media projects don't have to be popular or entertaining as individuals projects to be part of popular entertainment.
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So just to be clear.
It would be like someone saying, based on the political sphere, 'As the people who would propagate this kind of hate would say, how stunning and brave! I hope these people get the mental help they so clearly need. Unfortunately this is now the cost of electing a populist entertainer that challenges conventions. Donald doesn't deserve any of this' ?
I didn't look at it that way, but now that you've explained it, maybe Neil has a point...
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