RenCutypoison said:
You see two men. One is white, one isn't. If you treat them differently based on this one trait, that's racism (obviously, ill intent, systemic opression are important variable I didn't take into account here, but) -> "At least I hope I am correct in assuming that 'transgender woman' means that a penis is still attached to such a person." <- 1)Focus on the cis-perceived difference between cis and transwomen. Again, genitals are none of your fucking business. Also, no, the difference between a cis woman and a transwoman is that one wasn't attributed to correct gender at birth. This is true for 100% of trans people, and you can't say that about a lot of things. "Simply ask yourself if you would draw a line between dating women and transgender women; if you are honest about it, the chance is higher than 99% that you will draw a line." <- That's the very definition of discrimination and an ill focus. Don't define us trough your sexuality. Well, this is actually dumb of me. Don't define people based on your sexuality, and that's fucking it. Trans hyper fetishization is extremely damaging, and leads to a shitload of violence (verbal, sexual, physical). "I assume this is an issue of society trying to make absolutely everything normal and acceptable." <- What does that mean ? explain it to me like I'm 5, what exactly isn't normal and acceptable ? I would love to know. |
Nope, you get it wrong.
"You see two men. One is white, one isn't. If you treat them differently based on this one trait, that's racism (obviously, ill intent, systemic opression are important variable I didn't take into account here, but)"
If you count dating or not dating as treating differently you go into the territory of involving yourself into the sex-life of others. As a fact: most people date other people of similar skin color. That is usually not seen as discriminatory, but as something that people all decide for themself what they are comfortable with. What actually *is* discriminatory, is saying other people they can't date or they have to date. Because it is their own business. But you are here telling us who we should date. No, everyone decides that for themself. And if they decide they don't want to date some people based on some superficial attribute like hair color - it is none of your fucking business.
Then you cite this: "At least I hope I am correct in assuming that 'transgender woman' means that a penis is still attached to such a person." There was the question right there embedded in the sentence. He hopes he is correct in assuming. So say: yes you're correct or no you aren't correct. But people making assumptions about the world is something normal. Nobody knows everything. So we all fill the gaps with assumptions. And we all have wrong assumptions. Correct them, but don't judge people for they lack of knowledge.
Then: "if you are honest about it, the chance is higher than 99% that you will draw a line." <- That's the very definition of discrimination and an ill focus". Actually it is a statement of another assumption. I don't know if 99% would draw this line, but it actually might be correct. Or not. Again, something that should be corrected if you have better facts, but I don't see why it should be judged.
I think everyone should date who they want (if consensual) and avoid being forced into a date they don't want. I avoid judging anyone by their choice in sexual partners (would be thin ice if I did). I also don't take away anyone to express their sex, gender or sexual orientation as they want, as long as it isn't harassing other (like exhibitionism). But the things you cite follow these rules, so I fail to see the discrimination. You need to explain what bothers you.
