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Barozi on 28 May 2020
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JRPGfan said:
donathos said:

Things aren't settled yet, and we oughtn't discuss them as though they are... but...

Haven't we mostly managed to do what was asked, and exemplified by that graph? Haven't we "flattened the curve" via our protective measures? Seems to me like people act now as though the mission was originally "stop the virus cold in its tracks" or something, but it wasn't. It was acknowledged early on, to the best of my recollection, that the genie was out of the lamp, and that we could only mitigate the spread -- draw it out over time, precisely so that we could avoid crossing that dotted blue line. Because we were all afraid of the nightmare scenario of our hospitals being completely overrun, people who needed ventilators and couldn't get them, people with other emergencies being denied basic access, etc. None of that has happened (yet). Well, that's why we locked down, not to eliminate the virus or its spread.

I don't know who was imagining that the virus would just up and go away (outside of Trump), but that was never on the table: it was not possible, and it won't be possible unless and until we have an effective vaccine.

Donathos are you asking relateing to the USA?

20 states in the US are currently in a growth phase, after its partial reopening (1 week ago this was just 13th states).
Theres places in the USA (alabama for one) were hospitals are running out of ICU bed spaces, due to the amount of Covid19 patients.
Some people that need intensive care, wont be able to get it, basically.  And these people are takeing up space, in the ER now.

Alabama saw a 28%+ week on week growth in covid19 cases.



"I don't know who was imagining that the virus would just up and go away (outside of Trump), but that was never on the table: it was not possible, and it won't be possible unless and until we have an effective vaccine." - Donathos

Switzerland, Ireland, South Korea, Austria, Norway, Finland, Denmark, .... there are places where it looks like they "could" potentially fully get it to go away.

Keep the Rt under 1, and eventually it will.

Theres palces were they basically managed that:

Yeah New York and New Jersey are declining but others states haven't even reached their peak yet or reached them only recently. That's the reason why there are still 20k infections each day. NY and NJ only account for 10% of new cases nowadays while they used to account for up to 50%.