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John2290 said:

It's partially true, no doubt. Canadian men in general are quite a bit softer than they used to be, and it's partially because of the widespread nonstop 'all males are bad for reasons' messaging being pushed. Our wet noodle of a P.M. has just accelerated things.

Though it's nowhere near as bad in conservative households/relationships. The same political divide and what comes with that in America is happening in Canada as well, just not to the same degree of separation, not yet anyway.

One of the biggest problems Canadians have is we are way too passive and forgiving until we are not. If through outside or inside influence, we happen to somehow reach that edge, Canada will snap back, and snap back hard. Sometimes it takes 'whiplash' to clue people in unfortunately.

Yeah, Indeed. I know it's just the loud minority, I know provinces are very different and all that but it's the face of Canada now for better or worse... mostly worse. I know all Canadians don't think everyone is racist by default or every man is sexist, whatever it was that started this thread. 

That political divide is happening almost everywhere, the lunacy middle aged white women and social media have brought into the world is being pushed back everywhere and in Canada, yeah but lad, it's going to take a lot more to cure Canada than some push back or leadership change, it's mothers teaching their childern and then one upping themselves again and again to the point of loosing all sanity or reason. I don't see Canadians just snapping out of this, It's gonna take a generation of kids to revolt and then that generation to grow old enough to make real change at scale. I'm not sure there is anything that can accelerate this besides... (oh wait, I forgot about the pandemic)... harsh times for a reality check.

At least Canada isn't the lost hope the UK is or the structural mess the US is. Maybe the after effects of this pandemic is what the world needs, the early 20th century really strengthened the latter half of the decade and provide the people who brough the greatest time in the history of humanity to take place, that should happen again after we toughen up and loose the trivial nonsense we were going on with. 

This is what it may very well come to. Things getting worse, leading to hard times, depending on your definition of hard, which leads to change. It's nowhere near that just yet, but it's increasingly drifting in that direction.

By snapping out of it, I mean like a rubber band. Stretch the nonsense to the point it finally breaks free and snaps back. That's how many Canadians are. Very nice and kind and laid back, until they finally hit the breaking point, and then look out.

SvennoJ said:
EricHiggin said:

Certainly sad and unfortunate what happened to them, though would the death and injury have been avoided if there was no lock down?

Trying to inspire because of Covid 19 during lock down, which is in place because it's possible you may have Covid 19, and possible you may transmit/contract it, therefore, we must lock down everyone because if it leads to saving just one life, it's worth it.

Sad to know that the Snowbirds and all stunt pilots worldwide will never be allowed to fly over heavily populated area's again. If they could crash into your home, and possibly kill you, then we must redirect these flights, because if it saves just one life, it'll be worth it.

To my untrained eye, it looks like a mechanical problem which could have happened regardless of why they were flying. And not to fly over populated areas would mean moving all airports, this happened right after take off. They had not even gained enough height to eject safely hence the one death.

They flew over here last week, just with a smoke trail, no stunts. That barrel roll right after take off wasn't planned I think.

And yes, they have many regulations to safe just one life. When doing stunts they have a designated sky box to perform them in, so in case something goes wrong they don't crash into houses or spectators. However, to fly, first one must take off. Moving airports to save lives, or not building houses next to airports to save lives is one of those things where common sense fails. Same as Pickering, why build a nuclear power plant so close to a major city. Just give all the people that live near by iodide pills just to be safe...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/nuclear-scare-prompts-thousands-of-orders-for-potassium-iodide-pills-1.4766297

In an emailed statement to CTVNews.ca Monday, Senior Communications Advisor for the City of Toronto Alex Burke said that the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, “requires that all homes and businesses within 10 km of a nuclear power station receive a supply of potassium iodide (KI) pills. Toronto residents within 10 km of the Pickering Nuclear Generating Station (residents living east of Morningside Road) receive KI pills automatically in the mail free of charge. Residents outside the 10-km zone but within 50 km of the station are also eligible for free KI pills that can be ordered online.”

It was a false alert, but come one, we have tons of space, why build it there. Just to safe the cost on power lines? And now they extended its lifespan by another 8 years. Nuclear power plants, one of those things you want to stick to the best before date!

Edit: trained eye perspective

Military pilot here: The jet had some kind of major engine warning or malfunction over the runway. With any engine related issue we are trained to zoom up, trading airspeed for altitude, and come around to low/final key (a position where a no engine forced landing can be made). This is what they attempted. That is why they are climbing and turning. While turning toward low/final key, they departed controlled flight (aggravated stall and spin) due to the lost of thrust. It was probably at this point the decision was made to eject. The tutor is not a zero/zero ejection seat like modern jets, and they were already in an aggressive downward vector. You can see one chute begin to open before the camera pans away.

Peoples lives are at risk here and we can't afford to take risks. It's for everyone's own good. Are airshows really more important than lives?