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Barozi on 13 May 2020
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Trumpstyle said:
crissindahouse said:

Well, wearing face masks isn't mandated everywhere. Only in shops and so on.

Right now Germany has around 20k deaths less as Sweden would have with equal population so I can't complain much.

But with almost everything re-opening now (also gyms) I'm sure we will also get back to higher daily numbers soon. 

We (Sweden) are doing a long-term play, our goal is to build immunity while protecting the vulnerable, this will shield us against future waves and should lead to less dead/million. You guys are doing Trace/Quarantine/self-isolate, we shall see which one is better. As you guys start opening up, you might start to catch up with us in dead/million.

As for face masks, you do understand a vaccine can take 2-5 years before it's develop, are you gonna walk around with a face mask all that time?

Conina said:

Meanwhile Germany has less active cases than Sweden despite the population difference (8x) and the population density difference (10x)

The only reason you guys have less active cases then us is because we are expanding testing, in beginning in april we did 20k test a week now we doing 30k test a week. This is why more testing is bad, it makes your numbers look worse.

I hope you and Vivster are gonna protest mandating face masks, the most your government should do is recommend.

Then tell me why numbers in Germany go down even when testing capacity has been increased.

Week 16 - 330,000 tests, 22,000 positive (6.7%)
Week 17 - 360,000 tests, 18,000 positive (5.0%)

testing increased by 10% but the number of positive cases fell.

Week 18 - 325,000 tests, 12,600 positive (3.9%)
Week 19 - 382,000 tests, 10,200 positive (2.7%)

testing increased by over 15% but the number of positive cases fell. Also week 16 and week 18 are very comparable when you look at the amount of tests but positive cases fell from 22k to less than 13k.

Source: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-13-de.pdf?__blob=publicationFile (page 9)

What's true is that the ratio of tests to positives cases will decrease the more tests you do. That's because you're testing those people first that show symptoms or had close contact to infected people. If you have the capacity and decide to do more tests you will eventually end up testing people that coughed once a week ago, making it extremely unlikely for them to be infected.