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EricHiggin on 14 April 2020
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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

You're not looking at it far enough ahead based on what I said, but either way, 1). how many experts have cried wolf in the past? 2). How many of them paid for their misjudgment by losing their job? 3). How many leaders listened to the wolf cries, making unfortunate poor decisions because of it, and were instantly forgiven because it wasn't really their fault, it was the experts opinion?

4). So if China was warned and their leadership turned a blind eye, leaving the rest of the planet to deal with this illness as well, because it's said that while Trump and other world leaders didn't turn a blind eye but waited too long, this somehow means it's all Trumps fault? If only someone had been warning America and the world of the many issues China brings to the table and how something needs to be done about it asap. Maybe then this would have been less severe by being less widespread. I wonder if the opposition who seems to think Trump is wrong and that countries should deal even more with China have changed their minds?

1). You tell us. How many? Who? Examples?

2). You tell us. How many? Who? Examples?

3). You tell us. How many? Who? Examples?

4). For the US, yes. Global experts warned China.  They also warned us. China took massive action and established containment to 1 major city.  Trump ignored the experts, downplayed the whole thing and now blames China for his own failures. 

Trump was warned by the State Department, the National Security Council, the National Center for Medical Intelligence, Health and Human Services department,  and WH Economic Advisors (twice). Plus the "red Dawn" email chain of 37 experts, officials, academics and administration officials.  And Trump called it all "Deep State" propaganda to harm his re-election.  Thousands are dead because he was more concerned about his re-election. It's now the number 1 cause of death in the US. 

No answer eh. I'm not surprised, since it would be like asking how many people exactly in total have contracted covid 19? Nobody really knows. All we can do is guess, yet make exaggerated claims based on the absolute worst possible case scenario we can actually prove.

The point is why is it always 100% the leaders fault? Even when the leader does decide to fire somebody for making poor decisions or giving them bad opinions/info, it still somehow always ends up only their fault.

Based on this mindset, I can only assume you believe it's 100% the Japanese leaderships fault that Nagasaki and Hiroshima were nuked? The Americans warned them, and the Japanese leadership didn't do what was necessary to protect their people, so Truman and America are entirely blameless?

As I've stated in the past, I'm not saying that the leadership would be devoid of blame, but that blame get's divvied up, and would start at the source. Meaning China get's the majority of the blame. If you also want to assume everything the experts say is undeniable truth and will certainly happen, just because they were more right than wrong this time around, then good luck with that in the future.

Using this to add to the 'endless' list of negatives as to why Trump shouldn't continue to be Prez is one thing, but assuming a worldwide pandemic could be kept out of one large free multicultural country, solely by it's main leader, and that because it wasn't, they're going to lose the next election solely because of it, is simply wishful thinking for some.