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John2290 said:
EricHiggin said:

What is needed is an in between measure. Nations with borders but willing to communicate and cooperate with other nations so it doesn't lead to war. That's so much easier said than put into practice though, I know, but it's the only way freedom remains as it does now. I wasn't trying to compare 1984 directly, but that the odds of that actually happening are slim in nations with rights that remain mostly intact. For other nations, they may not be so lucky if the free powerful nations don't step in and stop it, which they'd rather not do if they don't have to.

Simply cashless. You do or say something that creates massive controversy, usually in an online global fashion, and next thing you know, online money services can refuse to deal with you, or banks themselves. It's already happening on a very small scale, which means it will likely get worse the less cash there is. Right now you can easily get cash money or hold cash money on your person, without money services being involved, so not all that much pressure can be applied to you. What about when you rely on those services for all money transfers? It's indirectly like digital only gaming. If those servers go down, no games for you. If you break whatever rules are applied to that ecosystem, you're kicked for a period of time to learn your lesson, or you're outright banned period. Some creators on YouTube or other media services have had a serious problem with this. Being kicked off the platform even though they haven't broken any rules, since the rules can be made up on the spot.

That's not to say it's guaranteed to happen, but the opportunity is there and it's being experimented with.

Fuck, yeah, I completely forgot about that happening to content creators. That'll take some thought transposing it into the current situation but the initial positive thought that comes to mind is, right now, businesses aren't in a position to turn away revenue and If I remember correctly progress was being made in regards to this situation but indeed it could be a serious problem on the infrastructure front for small business and the workforce who work day to day, not that it is their main concern right now and like you said, it's a tight rope on the infrastructure like those poor bastards who get locked out of their cars cause they have know internet.

All depends on how things play out after this is over. What will people be willing to trade for their long term health, and will they think about the future indirect consequences of those decisions? It's a game of wait and see, but for now, figuring out the best ways to deal with this illness remains number one by far, followed by how to avoid or better handle future illness going forward.