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EricHiggin on 12 March 2020
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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

That same vid I saw the other day mentioned that 1). 80% of Americans have paid sick leave in some form apparently. Again, not sure how true that is, but that would be pretty decent coverage out of the whole.

Even if the healthcare system was universal, it wouldn't automatically save everyone. 2).Free healthcare doesn't mean no death.

3). UBI doesn't solve much. If you're not going out due to an outbreak, you're not spending extra money, other than on extra food and supplies, which some have mentioned isn't good if it's not rationed. 4). Just because you can get tested, doesn't mean you don't die, and doesn't guarantee you don't spread it, even though it should help to slow the spread.

1). Well, that's the biggest lie I've heard all hour.  And even for those that do have it, many require a doctor note verifying the illness.  So you can't simply use it as paid time off.  It's only valid if you're actually ill.

2). Who said it did?  Universal healthcare means everybody gets tested and everybody gets treatment. Regardless of your employer funded insurance (who might fight to not pay your testing or treatment because insurance companies do that shit all the time).

3). UBI solves a ton of issues.  If you have to take time off and don't get paid, how are you going to pay your bills? 

4). Where does this notion that getting tested means not dying keep coming from?  Nobody is saying that. 

Ok but if you're not working, and not going out much because you shouldn't, trying to help solve the problem, you should have enough sitting around to cover typical bills for a while. If you don't, then you as an individual didn't plan ahead well enough, like some of the corporations who didn't and will end up paying for it. If the people deserve free money, so do all the Corps. Not to mention, legally, they are "people" as well.

"Free testing", "What good is bailing out an airline industry if you lose too many passengers to the very virus your corporate bailout was saving you from?" The notion came from what you said prior.

How many people likely go to get tested, who aren't infected, who end up infected after being tested, by being in the presence of other infected people? How many of them go out and spread it everywhere because they don't think they have it?