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Pemalite said:
HollyGamer said:

My points is this the prove that they has their own proprietary solution that is not available on current PC market

And? Just because it's propriety doesn't mean squat.
The tech industry is littered with the bones of propriety technologies that failed... Case in point, Sony Memory Stick format.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick

I do have to ask, what is so propriety about it? Feel free to elaborate, just so I can understand your level of understanding on this specific topic.

HollyGamer said:

Having SRAM or not is not the argument we are talking  here (Is like arguing arguing back and forth weather  AMD CU is the same with Nvidia CUDA Core)  .

I was responding to your point on a Sony patent which mentioned SRAM in the SSD... As if it was something new and novel and never seen before which is false.
So yes, SRAM is very much the argument.

HollyGamer said:

The point is none of "current Nvme on the market " has all this type of combination and solution, and also it has a dedicated cpu and dedicated cache.

What combination and solution to be precise? Fact is we don't know what implementation the Playstation 5 is going to go with... Because the hardware hasn't been revealed in any detailed breakdown. A patent doesn't mean squat.

Have you seen the Playstation 5 in person? Have you seen a tech outlet tear apart a Playstation 5 and shown us the dedicated CPU and cache for the SSD? Or are you just asserting something as factual, without knowing the facts?

And are you sure that PC SSD controllers don't have a dedicated CPU and Cache? Or is that another false assertion?

HollyGamer said:

you have the same tech that similar show  to me  (you will not find any ) because this patent is only made for Sony by Sony.

I never stated the PC has the same technology, nor did I state the PC requires the same technology to equal or better the implementation Sony goes with, making this a goal-post shifting logical fallacy.

The PC can and does have SSD implementations that will wipe the floor with the Playstation 5 because power, cost and size is not a factor.

HollyGamer said:

 If   Yes SRAM is available on the market and yes they probably has small cpu , but it's not inside normal NVMe that you can buy in store for gaming RIG  , hell even PS4 costume APU using GDDR5 is not available on the normal AMD APU.

And yet. The PC can still beat the Playstation 4 in terms of performance, because it doesn't have cost, power, size limitations.

In saying that, new APU architectures (I.E. Vega) have a plethora of technologies that conserve DRAM bandwidth... Such as Delta Colour Compression, Primitive Discard, Draw Stream Binning Rasterization, Primitive Shaders, Index Cache, Improved Culling and more... Meaning it does more work per unit of bandwidth than the Playstation 4.
Once Renoire drops with DDR4 DRAM speeds of 4266mhz, things will get really interesting.

https://techreport.com/review/31224/the-curtain-comes-up-on-amds-vega-architecture/

HollyGamer said:

A patent filing is not guaranteed will pass in to the market, but this a prove to back up my opinion based on the current info we have so far regarding Cerny statement on how they can achieve a "fast SSD " on affordable price consoles.  

It proves absolutely nothing as you don't know if it's going to be in the hardware being released into the market.

Cerny's statements in regards to the SSD doesn't trump the fact that overall, the PC can have faster SSD implementations than a console could ever possibly have as it's not restricted by cost, power or size... There is this little known technology known as "RAID" after-all, which allows multiple drives to work together to bolster reliability and/or performance.

The SSD tech could be great, yet not be anything unique and special, other than the combination in a proprietary cartridge.

I wouldn't be surprised if SNY assumed the general public is too incompetent to install a typical SSD stick, and so housing it in a cartridge would make sense. Why not just use a typical 2.5" SSD then? Maybe they found that few people bothered upgrading their internal HDD on PS4 due to 'being too complex'. Maybe PS wants to have an option for a clean looking gaming center without requiring an external storage drive.

If by chance the SSD space on PS5 is going to be seen as borderline enough, they may plan on selling a boat load of SSD upgrades or expansions. This wouldn't be any different than in the past where console companies would sell memory expansion packs or larger memory cards themselves. This could be a way to keep the launch price down at a more reasonable level, or it could be a way to make back some of any losses on the console, or make extra on top.

Then again, maybe it's a cart for a PS Portable, whatever games it may end up playing.