| o_O.Q said: 1) "My point is that people should stop raping other people" true, but that's not going to happen unless you have some type of solution to offer?
2) "Also, you seem to keep ignoring women when speaking about prison rape. You keep saying "these men" or acting like prison rape statistics are 100% male. They aren't." i did because you were dismissing them as people that matter and i find that disgusting
3) "When I speak of "outliers" I am speaking of outlier populations. You seem to be conflating this with "outlier individuals"." my point still stands, you are using an aberration to make assessments of the whole that it branches from in the case of "rape culture" and refusing to be consistent when it comes to the rape of men in prisons you can't say well the prison population is an outlier so we can't use that to make assessments of the wider culture then at the same time turn around and say well rape is abnormal but regardless i'm still going to take it and use it to assess the wider society mentally ill people are outlier individuals, can i now take them and use them to assess the sanity of the wider society according to your logic?
4) "and besides, it would be virtually impossible to construct such a graph" how do you know? you haven't tried, if you have send me a screen capture of the axes
5) " ...That reads to me like a non sequitur." my point was that you are asserting that prison rape is much more common than in the wider society, but according to feminist statistics that is not the case |
1) That isn't what this discussion about.
2) ...What? You ignored women because you thought I was dismissing them? That is nonsense for so many reasons.
3) This argument seems to entirely be based around the idea that I support the idea of rape culture. Which I don't. That makes this a little bizarre, because I don't know what I am supposed to be arguing here. I don't believe one rapist or one victim is indicative of the entire culture, and that is not what I am doing and it is not what I have done, so how is that any form of argument here? You have failed to support your point so you seem to have shifted to just stuffing words into my mouth and arguing that instead. I will not defend a position I don't hold (I feel like this isn't the first time I've said this to you).
4) ...The fuck? Tell me, where would I obtain reliable and consistent statistics relating to the rate of rape for every "population" within the United States? Depending on how these numbers are broken down, that may mean one data point for every college, every prison, every town or city or county or district, etc (or maybe prisons as a whole, colleges as a whole, then cities divided by class and then towns divided by class? Regardless, the data does not exist).. The data simply doesn't exist, but what data does exist suggests that you are wrong, and further, this is an absolutely ridiculous point in the first place. "Make me an impossible graph or I wont believe you"? Bullshit, man.
5) But they don't?
