‘Rape Culture’ Is A MYTH | Change My Mind

[EricHiggin]

setsunatenshi said:

EricHiggin said:

While I don't really like the idea of abortion at all, I would be willing to compromise if the system were designed in a certain way. This is just my personal opinion.

If the woman is not an adult, or is raped, or the man wants nothing to do with it, and she doesn't want it either, she should be able to choose to abort.

In the same scenario's, if the woman does want it, she should be able to choose to give birth and accept full responsibility of that child (with adult approval if she's not).

If however they are both consenting adults, and they both agree the point of the act is to create a life, if she changes her mind and no longer wants the child, but the man does, then she should have to give birth. The way I see it, that man owns the rights to his 'product' and therefore the rules that go along with that should basically be contractual. If he requires what comes of that 'product', a child, is to be given life, then it should be granted, or the contract would then be broken, and she should have to pay a price. That price should be enough that she has to think twice before trying to abort. The man would also need to accept 100% responsibility of that child.

This way woman should get their way the large majority of the time and in those cases shouldn't really hurt anybody else (but the unborn potentially). While there would need to be much more to this, as I most certainly haven't covered absolutely everything, I think it would please many more people than simply allowing woman to make the choice no matter what. I realize it's their body that holds the unborn, but that being wouldn't exist without that man's 'product'.

When the man can carry a pregnancy inside his body, he'll get the right to decide. 

I don't give any woman the right to decide what happens inside my testicles just because they carry potential life. 

What about woman who define themselves as men, who become pregnant?

You do. The fact you require consent, even though you could do with her as you please, means she has the right to control your body to a degree.

That's like saying when a woman can physically defeat a man she'll be given the right to decide, but until then, don't tell men what they can and can't do with their bodies, even though what they do with those bodies, may negatively impact woman. We agree that's not fair because men and woman aren't the same biologically, so the men are expected to withhold their physical strength to overpower a woman. Why is the fact a woman is different biologically in terms of reproductive organs, a good enough reason to negatively impact men then? If we all agree that men shouldn't rape woman because that's harmful to woman, then we should also be able to agree that woman shouldn't be able to kill the unborn because that's harmful to men.

This is part of the reason why I'm not entirely on board with abortion, yet would be willing to compromise to at least make it as acceptable for as many as possible.

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 09 October 2018