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Mummelmann said:
Runa216 said:

 It's the same sort of hateful, misguided, dangerous rhetoric that helped Trump get elected and helped neo-nazis have a voice again. This is not the exact same, but it's close enough and it's not okay. 

Okay, I'm one of those who has pointed out a few times (to no avail) that this decision would cause major issues with the canon and setting (I've read all the books two times over the years). I'm also among those who refused to see Ben Hur and Gods of Egypt because of the ridiculous casting choices. Another relevant tidbit pertaining to this particular part of your post; my family on my mother's side are Romani mostly from Spain and some of my relatives were butchered by nazis (my great grandfather, among others). On the other side of the family, during the war, my great grandfather and his friends were resistance fighters against the nazi occupation during the war and subjected to persecution and threat from Gestapo and a local band of informers/turncoats known for their savagery and inhumanity (Rinnanbanden).

So for someone who has his mind set on "educating" others and taking the high ground and speaking against general nonsense (in you own mind anyway), I find it more than a little bit insulting that you deem it right to compare something like arguing problematic canon with contributing to the growth of neo-nazism. Not only are you grossly and hilariously generalizing several people regardless of actual arguments; you're also declaring your own opinion to be gospel, no relativity, no humility, no nuance. It's quite frankly shocking to see someone so eloquent and seemingly intelligent getting it so wrong.

For future reference, I'm not very fond of being likened with nazis for disagreeing with someone on a discussion board, the one having the overreaction here is clearly the user using the nazi argument. Appalling.

But that's the thing, I never said that you or anyone else on the board is a nazi. I said the same leaps of logic and mindset that justifies the rage at a minority being chosen is exactly the same pathway to a modern culture that validates modern nazis and the trump administration. It's less about reality and history than it is the misguided fear of change that leads people to incorrectly assume their type is being snuffed out and therefore they have to fight back or something. That's why white nationalists actually have a voice now. That's why Trump is in the white house. That is why Doug Ford is Premier of Ontario. Fear and misguided self-preservation, not logic or reason. 

And the path that leads people to misuse faulty logic in order to justify their tribalistic fear is a huge problem because it's so hard to fight against it because the arguments SOUND reasonable even if they aren't. 



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