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KLAMarine said:
EricHiggin said:

I'm ok for allowing it at this point in time since I feel payback is necessary sometimes to let your opponent know if they want a war they'll get one, a brutal bloody one, but if they smarten up and want peace, then we can talk. If PS just rolled over and let XB get away with what they wanted initially this gen, and throughout, it would be everybody complaining about XB right now and not PS.

"You either die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Last gen this was XB and this gen it's slowly becoming PS. Until PS feels that they and XB can legitimately compete and can also come to a certain agreement where both have equal opportunity, I don't see the need for PS to back down. MS is a massive company and has many ways they can more easily branch out XB in the future to possibly outgrow PS if they really get serious, so it's not as simple as coming to terms on just console gaming as it exists now.

We can all hope though, that both companies can find a way to co exist more peacefully and allow for cross platform play. This would no doubt be a great win for gamers and could be a big ticket item next gen. If PS is smart, even if they wouldn't mind allowing cross play now, they will wait to announce it sometime around the launch of PS5 and use it for good PR, much like 'This is For The Players'. I can only see that however, if PS5 launches well before XB Scarlet info is officially revealed. Otherwise they will wait to see what XB presents for next gen before they open the gates, just in case they need it to remain closed to stay competitive in the face of whatever XB brings to the table.

I would say best case scenario for Fortnite at the moment, is maybe a one time minuscule payment to get the account off PS4 for good, or PS allowing a secondary account to cross platform with primary content but all purchases must remain on the primary PS4 account. I do also think that Nin might not like that though. Hard to say. If there are a tonne of PS4 and Switch dual platform owners, that's a bunch of micro transaction money that Nin may have to do without if PS4 allows the content to cross over.

"payback is necessary sometimes to let your opponent know if they want a war they'll get one"

Even if it means the consumer ends up getting shit on.

"maybe a one time minuscule payment to get the account off PS4 for good"

I'm not holding my breath on that one-time payment, or rather, ransom paid to Sony because that's what this is for some Fortnite players: a hijacking of their EG account. I think Sony would prefer to just hold on to those accounts and make money off of the micro-transactions.

As for the payback, I stand by it. If PS had just rolled over and died after PS3, we would all be stuck with the XB1 as it was when it launched, and you can bet it's policies would have gotten even worse as the gen went on. XB slapped PS around with the 360. PS is slapping XB around with the PS4. Hopefully this is enough for both beaten and bruised soldiers to call a truce for PS5 and XB Scarlet.

I think more likely PS would rather go for the other option of primary and secondary accounts if Epic can swing it. If not, I don't see PS completely turning a blind eye unless they have a hardware option on deck to solve the mobile issue. I'm sure there are plenty of other possibilities I haven't thought of though.

Jumpin said:

Sony stock drops due to Fortnite controversy:


https://gamerant.com/fortnite-switch-account-sony-share/
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/06/sonys_share_value_takes_a_hit_following_fortnite_account_woes_on_nintendo_switch
Fox Business: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSNJJNAuNA0

So basically, Reggie says Nin thinks PS is horrible for their Fortnite policies and should go out of their way to embrace cross play, but that Nin specifically isn't going to go out of their way to fight for themselves or anyone else, since they haven't even bothered to talk to PS yet. Nin would much rather have everyone yell and scream and shame PS to try and force them to do what they want, not knowing the exact behind the scenes info between PS and Epic or anyone else. Real grown up solution to the problem...

He get's asked why the Switch owners who want Netflix aren't getting Netflix because that would be pro consumer, and he blames it solely on Netflix.

Reggie also says, everything we're doing is driving momentum. Momentum, momentum, momentum. Hmm... Oh ya, he also mentioned momentum.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.