Goku for Smash 5? I say YES!

[Dravenet7]

Snoorlax said:

OK guys i'm getting sick of the "not a videogame character argument" what other arguments do you have against Goku joining Smash?

EDIT: PLEASE READ OP.

I get it, Goku is not a video game character but this argument is such a cliché that i find it hard to take seriously anymore because we've known this for ages. Smash was supposed to be a Nintendo All Star fighting game now it's become a Nintendo/third party All Star fighting game.

Here are some arguments in favor of Goku joining Smash.

-1  Goku one of the most requested characters since Brawl

- 2 Goku's anime aesthetic fits perfectly in Smash

- 3  Goku has appeared in over 90+ videogames

- 4 Goku has appeared on pretty much every Nintendo console out there.

-  5 Goku's games are mainly competitive fighting games so that would fit Smash

-  6 Goku's popularity is globally at the same level as Mario and Pikachu and would only boost sales

-  7 Goku would be the first non video game originating character in Smash

-  8 He's Goku what else do you want?

I don't have a lot of time on my hands but I will at least applaud you for readily and consistently debating others on the topic without getting letting it get too crazy. With that said, a lot of your points which has been made, by a lot of people are pretty much wrong. The R.O.B + what smash is supposed to be thing especially, but I'll detail that later if I have time.

Anyway Goku is not a video game character is more than an argument or reason, it is a fact. If you find a fact cliché well you do you. I'll go beyond that reason (except in 3-4 points you made that need (I'll post put an asterisk (*) there )

1 -  Being the most requested has never been good enough to get into Smash (including the Smash ballot)

2 - Goku's anime aesthetic fits perfectly in Smash <> not really; ultimately this is just differing opinions though.

3* - Moot point. Almost all non-collabs are based on source manga material with either fluff elements or experiences which are considered non canon. non canon things are important to note because they generally don't matter towards the story of DB, where even with Nintendo games, silly spinoffs and junk are actually kept in their story. Fluff in DB is irrelevant fluff that ultimately is never carried over. The reason that the 90 games using manga adaption is because it is literally reusing the same story over and over and well you get the point. I'm not going to much further on this because I assume you get the gist.

4 * See previous

5 -  This somewhat contradicts your of bringing up 90+ games. Also this is irrelevant, as the only character brought due to the fact that he was a fighting game character was Ryu, the most iconic fighting game character of all time.

6 -  I don't really want to debate this point. You can have it.

7 - ******************************************************************* 

Now why is it ok for you to use the fact that he is not a video game character as a valid reason, but when others do it in contrast its somehow cliché? Reason is completely null on your part, but it gives me an opportunity to use to say this for your final point:

8 - * I would want a video game character, which Goku is not.