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DonFerrari said:
Mnementh said:

Home console have often inferior inputs compared to PC. It is usually not a problem with todays games as they are tailored with console in mind, but try the original Starcraft or games like this that heavily rely on mouse on console.

VR is different, as handheld is different as mobile touchscreen-devices are different.

I agree that XB1 and PS4 versions are similar enough that the scores shouldn't show much differences. But that doesn't mean a platform with inherent differences like the Switch can't improve or deteriorate the experience. It fully depends on the game though, which effect the platform has.

Yep consoles have inferior ports, and no issue with they getting some discounts on the score (unless PC while having better specs end up showing worse due to bugs);

And which improvement have Switch brought to the game to warranty better score?

Mnementh said:

You outright say we ignore factors like control-scheme? As I said as example: I really like Jagged alliance, but I despise the 3DS-port, as the controls work horrible. You say it should be ignored, as the game stays the same. The fact that 3DS doesn't use a mouse shouldn't impact the score of the game. Well, I disagree heavily.

That some PS3 late ports sold better than on X360 shows the selling power of the PS3. Some late ports on Switch also sold better than on any other platforms. But the general rule of thumb is: late ports sell worse. That the trend was in some cases reversed shows, that other factors played a big role.

Does that mean you expect sales better than on other platforms for Doom and Skyrim on Switch? But then you say my expectations already would mean financial success, so I'm confused what your point is here.

Were did I outright said it?

The fact you play on KB+M, control or HH in itself shall not give extra or minus point to the game unless that really impact the game in a meaningfull manner.

Errr on the case of PS3 as far as I remember it was more common for late ports to sell better than worse, but that is irrelevant anyway.

Nope I don't expect better sales than any other consoles. I said that if the game do bad, there shouldn't be excuses. And also that the numbers you posted should mean a good success. But if the game instead do 200k (instead of 500k) and 500k (instead of 1M) that would mean it didn't do well, do you agree?

I disagree on portability. Portability is fucking awesome and it influences the way the game is perceived. But it depends on the game. I think I'll play Doom mostly docked, as this game resonates not too well with the portable mode. As it loses frames which is for such a fast game kinda important I understand the lower scores and agree. For Skyrim on the other hand I see that playing on the go is fucking awesome and if the game isn't broken or something I think it will be the best version of the game, simply because I can play it whereever.

You think different. That's your opinion. Strange enough though, that for graphic fidelity you just allow to take the platform into consideration, but for nothing else. That seems  random.

Also, I don't see PC-console multiplats not always as better on PC. Ports from console can be hampered by the control-mapping and feel worse on PC. Also mobile games for touchscreen might work badly on console and PC. I think control-scheme alone is a very, VERY important part of the platforms that heavily influences the perception of the game. If you think differently and think a game should get the same score although it was designed for other inputs than the platform it was ported to has - well then it is an opinion I disagree with.

My expectations are more or less based on nothing than feeling. But yes, if it sold lower than my expectations, I would be disappointed. If it sells lower than many persons expectations, then a general consensus of sales-failure will exist. If Bethesdas expectations are not met, the game will be considered a failure.



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