Which is the most significant (important) console in history?

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Aeolus451 said:

Mandalore76 said:

Wait, what?  You can say the PS1 or PS2 is your all time favorite console.  That's fine and dandy.  But, you can't just make up some revisionist history about Play Station saving the gaming market.  Saved it from what?  Home Console sales had risen in Gen 4 from Gen 3.  So, what was saved?  An already growing market?  You're entitled to your choice of answer to the OP's question, but when you follow it with ridiculously unsubstantiated claims it makes said choice seem to be purely based on personal bias than any grounding in reality.  When someone says the NES saved the gaming market, it's a well documented and proven fact that in North America it did just that.  There was an actual video game market crash.  There was no market crash at the end of the fourth generation that Sony swooped in and repaired.  Was PS1 the highest selling console of its time?  Was the PS2 the highest selling console of all time?  Yes.  No one is disputing that.  But the video game market was not stagnant or in decline when the Play Station brand debuted.  It was growing.  Therefore, you can't just arbitrarily declare that Sony saved gaming. 

By the way, 3rd party devs were doing just fine before Play Station.  If you think SquareSoft, Capcom, Konami & Activision etc. would have somehow mysteriously gone belly up without Sony entering the video game market, then you have some pretty heavy blinders on and I don't know what to tell you.   

It did save gaming in terms of where it was headed and it would have died with nintendo running the ship eventually. People did not realize how much video games could sell until playstation consoles came around. The market was stagnant in comparison to what it could do. Alot of 3rd party sales were generated from playstation console sales. You damn well know that no nintendo console can push the kind of 3rd party game sales a playstation console can. Nintendo carries no weight with 3rd parties because they know that most of their games won't sell that well.

What would happened to a lot of 3rd party devs if they never had those kind of sales? Would they have created some of the games they did? Who really knows but to act like it would have been business as usual without playstation consoles around. lol That's absurd. More than likely, the bulk of third party devs would have went to the pc market and told nintendo to eat it's shorts. If ms still entered the market when it did, the devs would have put games on that console along with pc. 

If you disagree with me, by all means have at it.  This is nintendo fan forum and I never expected anything different from a nintendo console being the favorite choice or that I would catch some flak for saying something opposed to the  group think. I don't really give a shit what nintendo fans think of the best console or best games or what is the most influential console is. We're going to agree to disagree on that stuff and that's that. 

This is a lot of unfounded speculation. Yes, this could be possible, but we will never know.

And this has nothing to do with being a Nintendo-fan. I see most influential:

1. Magnavox Odyssey (they created the damn business)

2. NES (recovering from the game crash)

3. Xbox (changing many things in gaming: made online multiplayer popular, mature games, DLC, trophies, shooters - the console didn't sell much, but seeing that X360 and PS3 followed it's path it was indeed influential)

I don't see either Wii or PS1/2 as influential. They were successful, but no game changers. And I don't see why you can deride other opinions as fanboyish when you explain your choice with very cloudy could-be-stuff.