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Intrinsic said:
walsufnir said:

The differnce YoY was 100k for PS4, right? And we have 238k only in US only for December so that means no Europe and Japan numbers and not from launch. Yes, there is also some uncertain data but the difference in the YoY data is so small that it is highly probable that without the Pro, it would've been down YoY.

Ok, so we can confirm that the XB1s was down YOY globally. 

Can we also say that without the XB1s it would have been abysmalluy low?

Point is that it doesn't really matter. We looking at data there is no point looking at the unknowns because... you know.... we don't know. Maybe if there was no PS4pro sony would have added a BR player into the PS4s. Maybe sony would have droppd the pric to $199. Or if there was no PSVR in the works sony would have dropped th price of the PS4 from as way back as march last year. 

We just don't know. If you are gonna consider an "if" situation, then consider all the other "if" situations that could have happened instead.

Eh, what does Xbox have to do with that?

Point is, if it doesn't matter to you, why even reply? I made my point clear. You think it's unlikely what I am saying? Ok. This is not an "what could've happened if aliens would attack us" but something I think is very likely, given the numbers we have. Apparently this made you pick up my post and even bring XBO into play which seems odd to me as it doesn't have anything to do with what I was addressing.