(Rumor) December 2016 PS4/X1 NPD Estimates

[TheBlackNaruto]

Intrinsic said:

walsufnir said:

The differnce YoY was 100k for PS4, right? And we have 238k only in US only for December so that means no Europe and Japan numbers and not from launch. Yes, there is also some uncertain data but the difference in the YoY data is so small that it is highly probable that without the Pro, it would've been down YoY.

Ok, so we can confirm that the XB1s was down YOY globally. 

Can we also say that without the XB1s it would have been abysmalluy low?

Point is that it doesn't really matter. We looking at data there is no point looking at the unknowns because... you know.... we don't know. Maybe if there was no PS4pro sony would have added a BR player into the PS4s. Maybe sony would have droppd the pric to $199. Or if there was no PSVR in the works sony would have dropped th price of the PS4 from as way back as march last year. 

We just don't know. If you are gonna consider an "if" situation, then consider all the other "if" situations that could have happened instead.

More so for the people that have said the PS4 would have lost without the Pro or been down YOY.....whose to say that without the pro that Sony would no thave moved those resources elsewhere? For like better bundles and deals? I mean you can't just say without the Pro Sony would have lost or done worse because that means things would not be the exact same as now.

Same witht he XB1 as you said so that argument that is being used has wholes.