pastro243 said: I find it funny that apparently people can predict 100 million sales/ taking over japan but someone makes a post with reasonable doubts and gets comments like "you don't anything yet, what you say doesn't matter" Oh, and I would be careful with the "It's going to get all the support from 3DS" statement. It's not going to be easy for devs that have been working with n64-psone era graphics on small screens to something bigger, sort of HD that has to look good on a big TV. Wasn't easy for Nintendo main studios to jump from Wii to Wii U without some developement troubles and I don't expect it to be easy for devs that have been working on 3DS to support something that Nintendo says it's a homeconsole. |
That's true. Games like Yokai Watch can now go full to iPhones and games like Monster Hunter, can go to PS4 where they can sell a lot easily.
In fact it all dependes on how many units Switch is gonna sell.
Mummelmann said:
I think I saw what they wanted to do with the teaser, the difference for me is that I think it's a fairly bad idea all in all. And the overall message of how exactly the NS should be treated is really confusing. Nintendo say it's a home console, yet the vast majority of the teaser shows the mobile aspect. The first shot of the man playing it in his actual home on an actual TV starts at 0.05 and ends at 0.20, that's 15 seconds of a person using it as a home console. Then, at 1.21 another man comes home and plugs the NS into the TV, he proceeds to play Skyrim for a whole 12 seconds before they switch to more mobile play. At 2.09, a woman is playing Super Mario in her living room, on the TV, she plays for about 10 seconds before bringing the NS out to her neighbors. At 3.06, a group of gamers plug their NS' to Tv sets in what looks like an e-sport arena, you see roughly 15 seconds of them being there but no actual gaming, but let's be kind and add it into the mix. So out of the 3.36 minute duration of the video, we see a combined total of about 52 seconds of the NS being used as an actual home console, the rest is focused on the mobile aspect and local multiplayer outside or at different venues. Yet, Nintendo say that this is not the successor to the 3DS, as if they intend more handheld(s)? How on earth does that work? And if there is another handheld coming, why the inferior ARM setup and mobile bits to begin with? Why the tablet form factor? They've not said in their own words that it's a hybrid either, which wouldn't matter anyway so long as there's speculation on whether or not a new handheld is coming. So apart from the features; the Switch already has identity issues, it is specified by Nintendo as a "Home Gaming System", yet their main focus in on the mobile aspects and consumers are still left in the dark as to when and if a new handheld will arrive, will it be a simpler, cheaper Switch perhaps? Who knows, and that's one of the main problems, if Nintendo adopt the "wait and see" philosophy, they can expect their would-be customers to do exactly the same. Let's not even get started on them using more or less the same tactics the Vita did to sell; home console gaming on the go, huge, immersive gaming on a tiny screen, headphones and small, unwieldly controllers you wave around or unergonomic attachments on the sides of the screen itself. Realistically, how many of the situations they showed will actually happen? Very few, perhaps even none. Instead of focusing on online and social sharing over the web, they have chosen to show people meeting up at skating rinks, basketball courts, in the car and other places to play the video game counterpart of what they could be doing in real life instead. This is just not how people play games today, nor has it ever been. Look, I could write 10.000 words on why I think this is a bad idea at its core, but I'll wait until there's more info before passing what I believe to be my final judgement of the product. Maybe they have an ace or two up their sleeve, I sure hope they do. As mentioned; I see what they want to do with the teaser, they're trying to roll convenience, hardcore (the nod to e-sports at the end), simplicity and complexity into one unit, but this is fundamentally a bad idea, and always has been. There is no one machine for everyone, so trying to make one is futile. This really is what they were trying with the Wii U, only one step further. The teaser has a message, but it's a bad message and the thing already has a fairly prominent identity problem which sorely needs clearing up asap. |
Calling that a home console is quite confusing. As a home console, it's a very weak home console. It'd be better to market it as 3DS successor in my opinion.
Torillian said:
Has it ever been stated that Nintendo will dedicate all studios to making NS games? Last I read they aren't looking at this as a 3DS successor and will have a handheld later. One can assume they're lying but until otherwise stated I'd rather just assume they're being truthful and therefore there's no reason to believe that every Nintendo developed game will be on NS. |
I doubt they gonna have a 3DS successor, unless Switch fails.
But in case switch fails, I don't see Nintendo surviving as a hardware company.
thismeintiel said:
Well, it's Nintendo. So Nintendo fans will give them a pass, even if later it doesn't pay off. Can't believe we were hearing nothing but the great 3rd party support the NX was going to get before it was revealed, and yet now that it seems like some devs are taking a wait and see approach, we are seeing the same things from the Wii U launch. Including the crazy sales predictions. "Oh, it'll sell 100M." "Who needs X dev or Y publisher?" "It's not coming to NS? Who cares." "Their lose." "I didn't even want that game." It's like they never learn. |
lol, true.
Cerebralbore101 said:
Couldn't agree more with this. There is a huge graveyard of expensive handhelds out there that had terrible battery life, no games, and powerful graphics. I'm still hoping that the NS launches at $250, because otherwise it will get crushed. The XB1 Battlefield bundle is only $300. I'm also hoping that the NS gets a lot of games that are meant for portability, and look around NGC levels. Battery life wouldn't be an issue if they didn't try to run the system at max graphics setting the whole time. |
Yes. The ideal price is $250 including one game or hopefully two games.
Faelco said:
Nope. The Vita offers PS4 titles on the go with a similar and sometimes even identical experience. The 3DS offers handheld games or (rarely) handheld versions of home consoles games with heavily reduced graphics and adapted gameplay. No, you don't play home console games on your 3DS, really far from it. It's never been the point of this console and it will never be. If you call Pokemon and Monster Hunter 3DS "home console games", I don't know what is the generation of the home console you're talking about... They are handheld games and not the kind of games the Switch is supposed to offer. |
True, we can't affirm that 3DS are console games unless we mean old console games in my opinion. Monster Hunter is amazing but it's still sort of a PS2 game.
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