Face it. It is over. Trump won.

[Mnementh]

SpokenTruth said:

Mnementh said:

Well, if you would read what I wrote, than Nate Silver and Jody Avirgan are writing that a) it is pretty unclear if 50% of Trumps voters (as suspected by Clinton) are racists, as the notion as racists is strongly depending on definition. As the answers to different questions differ it seems everyone has a bit racist in themself and how much differs from person to person. Secondly they point out that also Clintons voters contains a set of racists, but probably less than Trumps.

Single data points like David Duke are irrelevant to such statistical data. We talk about millions of people. If you let your decision be guided by David Duke though (if you make always the oppposite of him) you give him a lot of power over you, so if he would support Clinton, you would instantly drop her?

So you're whole posit is that she said "half" and rather than consider hyperbole, you take it as she's explicitly claiming half.  Do you hold Trump to the same explicit standards?

What do you want from me? You pointed to KKK, David Duke and so forth. As if a candidate is defined by some fringe groups that support him. Do I say Trump is a great candidate? I'm far from it.

I don't say the 50% is hyperbole, it is correct, if you take a specific question as measurement. If you would have read the links, people answer differently depending on which question you ask. The question that classified 50% of Trump supporters as racists also classify 25% of Clinton supporters as racist. this is what I'm pointing out. Racists is not a clearly defined thing.

So, to conclude the discussion I adopt your style: Hillary Clinton is supported by racists, so she must be an evil biatch.

 

 

Either way, the US is a tumbling imperium. It will be in 50 years in the position russia has now. America will not be great again, it will go down, that much is for sure. The big question for me as european is: will the US start world war III in the process of going down or not? Both - Hillary and Donald - are good candidates for making war. As sure as hell Hillary wins, she will go down in history as starter of WWIII. But maybe miracles do happen, and you Americans elect Jill Stein.