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Jazz2K said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Anecedotal evidence is useless when we're talking about capabilty which his statement (Spencer) doesn't seem to get. Doesn't matter how many friends you have or PC gamers you know.

Fact is it is in most cases trivially easy to connect a PC to a TV and use it for gaming now a days. PC's have been supporting controllers for fuck ever, wireless keyboard and mouse even those that are designed to be used for TV. 

The amount of PC gamers who game in the living room is irrelevant.

 

Just because Phil Spencer said some BS about uniquness doesn't mean he's even remotely right, probably why he prefaced it with "I think", since factually its wrong.

Nobody, who simply cares about the games, on PC is going to give a shit or not whether the game they bought came from the X1. This whole transfered X1 games garbage is absurd because the second its on PC its a god damn multiplat and its not an X1 game anymore on the PC. 

 

Just cause MS owns Windows doesn't mean they can stumble around and decided a decade too late to try and blur* the lines for more profit. No, no. Unfortunately for them PC became a free platform when they were off fucking with MP3 players and Mobile OSes, well tbh a lot earlier than that, and nobody gives a ratass that the Prince Spencer and the Xbox team have come "home" when you've already got Steam and Gog and Origin and Uplay and w.e the fuck else.

As anecdoctal as it is the same can be said about PCs being used like consoles in the living room by most PC gamers. Anecdoctal at best and from my experience people don't buy PCs solely for gaming hence why it's not on the living room. Doesn't mean it can't be done or people don't do it. It's just that it's not common from people to have a PC hooked to a tv set in the living room especially if that person has a family.

Now, are multiplats bad and unwanted games? Games like Gears or Forza are high budget games that were only available on Xbox, being also on PC doesn't make them unwanted games suddenly. I'm sure PC gamers will welcome these games once Xbox exclusives to their platform of choice. It's all about choice, if you don't like Windows Store why should you use it then? If the games you want are only on WS then maybe you might look for either an Xbox or a WS that's it.

first things first, when talking about the PC platform, lets ignore the other platforms for a sec. All this blur the lines garbage is nothing but vaccuous PR.

the "statistics"(how common it is) are irrelevant, the capability is there, its not unique, and it's not affected by the amount of people who suposedly do or do not do it. It's simply a matter of convience and preference. That's why anecedotal evidence doesn't matter. 

X1 games on PC through windows store aren't magically different from standard PC multiplats/PC Games (this UWP illusion has got to stop), obviously MS has the right to ship their games through their own storefront, but lets not pretend this has any more "benefit" to PC gamers then Uplay or Origin does, let alone Steam. Like its some kind of previlege to PC gamers. Please. Gratzi, PC players can play more games, whoop de fucking do. 

Remember we aren't talkin about any other platforms here, it isn't a choice when a game is locked to a vendor, or at least not an actual choice. It's just locked platform (console) mentality thrown on to PC ala Games For Windows Live style. How about being a better service rather than the only one(ala exclusivity)?

P.S two shitty options don't become better than 1 great option because you can choose between them, so this "At least I have choice/all about choice" mentality can be dropped.



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