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thismeintiel said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

I posted NC because he made a good point at the end, I disagree with his entire review.

The originals, the prequels, and the new trilogy are obviously coming in at different eras and different circumstances. Who the fuck cares that it was like the old ones, the last move came out a decade ago, the first one came out 4 decades ago. It's basically a reboot rather than a continuation anyway. Cause Star Wars isn't aimed for just those who watched the previous ones. After the prequels, how is playing it safe unreasonable? Please. And FYI, I've never complained about remakes, not even TLOU RE. Yeah story wise it was weak, but it had better acting then prequels and better effects than the original.

 

You keep saying Rey mastered the force, when all she did was beat a wounded sith in training who got shot by a laser cannon and was already established as being weak in the force.

You're exaggerating how proficient she is, she stopped Kylo on accident, neither of them knew she had the force, so Kylo didn't expect any kind of resitance.

I conceded that there was some lazy writing, but your acting like its was impossible for Rey to display any of the force power just because she wasn't trained.

Basically a reboot, huh?  Funny how there's the Ep VII at the beginning. 

And the problem is you keep coming up with weak reasoning.  The worst is trying to pretend that Kylo isn't as proficient in the force, even though the movie showed us that he was.  From stopping a shot from a blaster, while continuing his conversation, barely concentrating on it.  Something we haven't seen before.  Lifting a person and pulling them to him.  Digging into peoples minds. He was freaking trained by Luke for years.  And used the Force to do something so horrible, and large, that Luke decided to live in exile, instead of facing him.  And now, he's been studying the Dark Side with Snoke for years, as well.

And given that Rey could defeat him sets it up that she is just as good as him, which is ridiculous after maybe 2 days of just finding out about the force.  Really, I wouldn't care if it turned out Rey was the most powerful Jedi EVER.  But for the love of God, show that journey, don't just have her get half way there on her own.  AFTER 2 DAYS OF NOTHING TRAINING!!

Your saying I'm using weak reasoning but you're the one suggesting that because Rei beat him right after he got shot, and by shot I mean directly hit, with the same laser cannon that has been one shoting stormtroopers, it means she is just as good as him? I don't know about you but nothing suggests that would've occured otherwise. 

Besides they've both walked away from this unscathed, if anything this makes Kylo more likely to win their next fight, which will be after she's trained with Luke. For all intents and purposes they're equal, and like nuckles87 brought up an excellent point.

In the movie canon, the only one that matters, both Anakin and Luke are displaying force abilities before being trained. Midochlorians be damned.



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