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padib said:

I already explained why him ending at a draw in the fight with Rey does not make sense. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7690413

The planet wasn't quaking yet, okay. It doesn't fix all the other issues I mentioned.

"Perhaps the world wasn't quaking just yet, but the planet is under attack by Rebels, the shield is down, Chewie blew up the area where Han was mudered (to weaken the defense system?), Kylo was escaping wounded.

I don't see how he would be in a mental place or position to torture a weak adversary."

Also, what is he proving to who? He just "permanently" wounded Finn and is about to slain Rey. I'm not sure he's intending to prove anything to anyone alive.


It was his job to find Rey. The planet being under attack and shield being down happened long before they were fighting. Snoke sent him to recruit her, so he wasn't just about to stop hunting her down when he saw her up on the high ledge. He wasn't escaping, he was doing his job.

When he sees Finn, he takes his anger and frustration out on him. Its easily explained by him shouting traitor and not finishing him when he knocks him to the ground the first time. 

Lawlight said:

I don't care what some leaked script says, I'll comment on what I saw in the movie. Kylo Ren suffers from the same issue as Kilgrave and Darren Cross - weakened by emotion. Basically, their downfall is that they weren't smart enough to finish things quickly when they could. They are weak emotionally and physically.


Nothing I said in that post was about the script, it was all movie.

But yeah, you basically said what I said earlier. The fact that he is a character that has signficant development throughout the movie puts him directly above the likes of Maul and Dooku. Its a character that is trying his best to live up to his grandfather, yet falls short at every possible hurdle.