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sundin13 on 11 May 2015
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noname2200 said:
sundin13 said:

We just don't have enough information (the starting points of the balls) to know what actually happened, and this lack of reliable information makes it ridiculous to give out such a harsh penalty.

Additionally, it is my opinion (and seemingly the opinion of numerous past and present quarterbacks) that modifying gameballs in some way is inconsequential and it seems to be fairly common. Strange that the NFL suddenly started caring about something so minor so quickly.

Would it help if you viewed the punishment as being not for underinflating a football, but repeatedly refusing to cooperate with, and apparently lying to, the investigation?


You first have to prove something happened before proving there was a coverup. As for Brady not sharing his emails, I think a fine would be a good penalty for that, however I would also like to see any text in the rulebook which talks about disclosure. I also see how it is entirely reasonable for Brady to refuse for a number of privacy reasons. The NFL already looked through the staffers phone, so it isn't like there is some missing link in the conversation that could only be retrieved from Brady's phone.

While I can understand a suspension for a few games (4 is overkill) to some degree, I think that the penalties on the organization are ridiculous. To my knowledge, no evidence was found linking Belichick or Kraft (or anyone of any importance other than Brady) so penalizing the club to such a large degree seems like too much.

For what many (including many current and past players) see as no big deal (and something that was treated as no big deal by the NFL prior to this case) to carry such a heavy penalty makes the NFL look like a joke.

FatedReality said:
sundin13 said:


And yet the Colts were also playing with underinflated balls throughout the entirety of the game, by ref measurements.

The lackadaisical nature of the NFL's enforcement of these rules pretty much invalidates this whole "fiasco" imo.


Correct me if im wrong but doesn't the offense use its own balls when they are on the field. So, wouldnt the Patriots be the only team benefiting from the use of the deflated balls sense they were only used when the Patriots offense was on the field.


The Colts balls that the Colts used on offense also showed values below the legal limit according to the Wells report.