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aLkaLiNE said:
Acevil said:

Simply put ps2 did have a certain audience, that today would most likely buy tablet instead. I don't know if simply calling them grandmas is right. Yes Wii did have this audience as well. However we will see in the long run who is right. If PS4 beats PS2 or even remotely reaches 150million, I will gladly accept I am wrong.

Also Japan isn't back on, PS4 isn't even coming close to ps2 numbers in that market. Same with software support from Japan. A lot of key companies are focusing more and more on the mobile market. 


I hardly think PS4 eclipsing PS2 sales would determine who's right. In fact a contradiction in your arguement is stating that Wii had the 'casual' demographic yet it didn't even outsell PS2 yet PS4 has to outsell it for me to be right :P How's that work? haha.

Again sorry if I came off standoffish.  I haven't seen your posts around this site that much but I'm rather annoyed at the community as a whole when people talk about 'casuals' because the way it's worded makes it sound like people think they're hardcore gamers and these casuals are a low level race of beings not worth a penny. Much in the same way actually that the PC 'master race' looks down on the 'console peasants'.  That shit pisses me off.

When someone says casual, I interpret it as mass market appeal.  In that regard all three consoles had pretty even mass market appeal.  This gen, PS4 is the most popular by a significant margin and I expect this figure to skew favorably as the gen matures.  I maintain that PS4 has a chance to come close PS2.  It has the content delivery platform to maintain a healthy life as a senior citizen when it's newborn is revealed supposed we see a wicked final price of $100-$150.  

Um, don't worry about it, I typically argue for the sake arguing at times. However lets address the first thing, Wii didn't have the core gaming audience, casual isn't enough to win. It had Core Nintendo audience, but Core Nintendo Audience < Core Gaming Audience by a line side. Also I usually refer to two categories as well, casual and core. However Core isn't hardcore, and core is really broad. I think what you described as casual, is what I consider Core. It is really hard to simply define casual audience, but essentially they aren't spending much in this hobby money or time. 

Edit: Also the trust me on Japan. It won't swing back sadly. It is mostly mobile land featuring 3DS. (However the rest of the world is making up for Japan, and that might be where it could get more sales than even I imagine).