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aLkaLiNE said:
Acevil said:

Thats the thing these aren't exactly perfect just yet.  A key demographic is really missing, and I don't think they will be here, and that is the casual audience. However I don't think the casual audience isn't as important to the overall health of PS4. I think PS4 could have the best attachment rate in the long run of any console past 30 million. Infact it might even rival ps2 in terms of million sellers. I just don't see it rivaling PS2 total sales. I think it will become more obvious in this year and next year that it might not. However like I said, it really doesn't have to. 


The casual talk is bullshit.  Don't mean any ill will toward you but 'casual' means nothing to me.  Most of the people on this site, are casual.  Honestly how do you define such a demographic? Because if it's by the amount of grandmas and soccer moms attached to a platform, the Wii is the only console ever to have a sizeable 'casual' market which is an absolutely ridiculous metric to go by in my honest opinion.

 

No.  The PS4 has what the PS2 had - Popularity.  It has the ability to speak many languages. Something we saw the PS2 do. It has the software to cater to every niche.  Something PS2 did.  Another important factor is Japan is finally back on board after the noteable absence last gen on the HD twins. We're about to reach another high point in gaming.  Mentioning 'casuals' just doesn't make sense to me because 99% of gamers as a whole are casual lol.  

 

Casual is typically core and vice versa.  Hardcore gamers are the kind that are looking at the top slots in leaderboards.  Hardcore gamers spend thousands on the l337 master race PC configuration. Hardcore gamers drink mountain dew, live off doritos and taco bell and probably have a few other traits that I don't care to mention because I could probably describe some people here to a tee :P lol.


Simply put ps2 did have a certain audience, that today would most likely buy tablet instead. I don't know if simply calling them grandmas is right. Yes Wii did have this audience as well. However we will see in the long run who is right. If PS4 beats PS2 or even remotely reaches 150million, I will gladly accept I am wrong.

Also Japan isn't back on, PS4 isn't even coming close to ps2 numbers in that market. Same with software support from Japan. A lot of key companies are focusing more and more on the mobile market.