Eurogamer: Mario Kart 8 "best looking console game of the year"

[Game_God]

Talal said:

Game_God said:

The only point here is that beauty is subjective & has nothing to do with technique.

Most of the gamer category I call "hardlycore" fail to see that... while technique helps you doing your stuff, it's empty without creativity, copying reality is not very creative, all you need is computing power...

I understand that MK8 is lacking some effects, AA & that it is not the most graphically technical game ever made, but there is more to the visual enjoyment of a game than what effects, pixels, shaders, poly-count, you can cram in 1 frame. The fluidity (FPS), camera angles, animations, details, art direction contribute to make a virtual universe plausible & belivable, there starts a bit of the magic of a videogame when you can immerse in it & have fun with it, lots of 16bits era games managed to do that without Uncharted quality graphics.

If you prefer other games for their graphics, that's quite all right, it's called taste, as long as your point of view is not the only 1 acceptable, you are entitled to your own personnal opinion. Myself I prefer Battlefield3 graphics over Battlefield4, despite knowing that the last one is more advanced from a technical point of view, in the end I don't like it.

What bothers me is this hive mentality that most of "hardlycore gamers" show, 0 tolerance for what is not the kind of games they worship & if it comes from Nintendo, you know that emasculating game making company, then they cry "burn the witches" & go apeshit how Nintendo should die or go 3rd-party because they are an insult to gamers... or something like that.

Enjoy whaterver games you like, but not for the wrong reasons, enjoy them for you, without minding what others think or want you to think, it infuriates me when I read narrow minded ill-logic, but in the end, what's left is sadness.

Who are you to decide what makes a game beautiful and what doesn't. Some people find technically advanced games beautiful. Some people think that higher resolution makes games more beautiful. It's quite hypocritical of you to name call and critisize people who view video game beauty differently than you do when you yourself are saying that people who have 0 tolerance for what is not the kind of games they like bother you.

I think you are getting it the wrong way, calm down maybe & read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

You say: "Who are you to decide what makes a game beautiful and what doesn't", my answer I don't decide anything, beauty in absolut is subjective. In a game, lots of factors help a game being visually attractive, my point is not all of these factors are technical! Technique is a tool a way to render what you want to depict on the screen. My point, today "hardlycore" only think in quantifiable way, the computer performance & that's very, very narrow minded!

You say: " Some people find technically advanced games beautiful. Some people think that higher resolution makes games more beautiful",  I do too, find some technically advanced games beautiful. One does not exclude the other, again technique is a tool, a way of doing things, but not a goal in itself, that's for engineers who design processors, they are the ones whose job is to craft power tools for game makers.

You say: " It's quite hypocritical of you to name call and critisize people who view video game beauty differently than you do when you yourself are saying that people who have 0 tolerance for what is not the kind of games they like bother you.", not quite, I don't call on people for their choices, but the criteria or lack of it, that leads to these choices, what drives me crazy is blinsided/hive mentality, the "we are right because we are right look at the tech & processing power" so empty argument. They are the ones bothered that game is visualy valued by other factors than polycount & shader effects! Don't try & reverse this fallacy.

I've worked in this industry (I make plane simulators for Airbus & EADS) for over 15 years, while it is not comercial videogames, it's quite the same stuff from a technical point of view. In my field we thrive on tech advancements, I started working on fridge sized Silicon Graphics Unix based computers because that was where power was. I've been gaming since the Game&Watch days, done it all, Nintendo, Sega, NEC, NeoGeo, PC, Atari... so let me tell you quite clearly that there is more to game developping than processing power & technical prowess!

You want to say that I might react in a passionate way when I read clueless "hardlycore" parroting marketing crap from A or B company, fine, sue me! I'm passionate about gaming but I admit it as I said: "it infuriates me when I read narrow minded ill-logic, but in the end, what's left is sadness", all I wish for is for the videogaming comunity to be more mature, less narrow minded & not fall for the brainwashing crap the most of gaming companies/media vomit on you!

Think out of the box & by yourself! Peace out!