| binary solo said: Lol this thing is already fading into the background. The purported purpose of gamergate: corruption in the gaming media1, is trivial bullshit. Boo hoo the gaming press and the game makers are a little too cosy. Who gives a crap? This isn't Boko Haram, this isn't ISIL, this isn't child abuse, or Israel/Palestine, or the rainforests, or global warming or not global warming, or corruption of police, or politicians. The only game I've ever bought on hype and ended up hating is because of gamer hype, being the same level as review scores, not because review scores were stupidly high for a rubbish game. If gamer gate is uniting against feminism, then they've lost their way, and they've proven they aren't really about corruption in the gaming media. And they're stupid. The more you fight feminism the more feminists can claim to be the victims. And the non-gamer public is generally willing to believe the worst about gamers. There are plenty of gamers who think gamergate is tainted in its origins anyway, so it's definitely not a unifying influence. In fact it's just another dividing line. |
Just because an issue is relatively small, doesn't make it trivial. I mean, if you honestly believe that first paragraph, what are you doing wasting your time with video games at all? Why should we not fight to make the video game industry a better place? The media can singlehandedly make a game a success or destroy it (if you haven't read Tachi's thread from a few days ago, you really should), should we not try to cut out as much bias as possible so games can get a fair shot?
People also aren't fighting feminism, they are fighting extremist feminism and the obsession with the politically correct. If you have seen the bullshit that Kotaku likes to post, or the Polygon Bayo 2 review (or so many other bullshit pieces, or the hypocrisy in all media when it comes to women's issues vs human issues), then you would see why this stuff is a blight to the industry. And, it is largely part of the corruption in the industry, as many of these pieces are just sensationalist click bait....
I agree that GamerGate should be abandoned, but only in name. The cause is a good one, and to see any gamer rising up against it makes me disappointed in the amount of shit some of you can take.
| teigaga said: If there is a useful purpose of Gamergate is definitely isn't being projected outside of 4chan and Reddit Best chance for people who actually see there is some merit to it, drop the moniker- its been completely destroyed by the guys whom insist on sending death threats or personal attacks or character assassinations as opposed to actually arguing specific points. |
To my knowledge, none of those threats were done under the GamerGate name.
| pepharytheworm said: Do people still not know what feminism means? It doesn't mean women take over the world and men become the subjected. It means equal rights for both sexes. And before anyone says that's not what all feminist fight for you need to remember with any movement there are radicals. The radicals don't define the collective. To put it simple if you think women should have equal rights by definition you are a feminist. |
When the radicals are the loudest voice, whose to say they don't define the movement? This is what people have done to GamerGate, even though the radicals aren't even close to the loudest voice. Feminism isn't what it used to be....
| bugrimmar said: and... what does this have to do with gamer gate and the topic of the OP? I don't understand. |
GamerGate is largely about how the media handled all of these events, with massive censorship, attacks on gamers, radical feminism, and basically a large orchestrated movement to push it all under the rug. GamerGate doesn't care about Zoe Quinn, the only people who bring her up any more are the ones who want to paint her as a victim to be used to attack GamerGate. There is a lot of good writing about GamerGate, unfortunately it tends to get buried under all the people ignorantly calling it a mysogynist movement. Here is one piece that I like: http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/25/gamergate-an-issue-with-2-sides/
