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| o_O.Q said: a. "killing many important people"? what makes the people who were killed important? isn't that a matter of perspective? why is it illogical? you posted this "Obviously there is some sort of plan for the middle east" "I do think that the government used 9/11 as a means of rallying the country to war" so you know the government wanted war and needed something to use as motivation, good i applaud you for reaching that conclusion
"but that isn't evidence that the 9/11 was an inside job" yes i absolutely agree and i never said so, however, i posted evidence earlier in this thread that up till this point no one has debunked and most don't even seem to be able to fathom how they can begin to
b. actually there's a lot of meaning contained in symbology, i actually went into some of the meaning of the pyramid earlier in this tread actually i'd go as far as to say that there is infinite meaning in certain symbols the pyramid being one its simply that we are not taught these things in school or shown in the media so most people go along woefully ignorant of the deeper meaning in things
c. "I think the fact that you can compare a massive worldwide organization/conspiracy to cats says something about the validity of your claims" why? and i'd like to add that obviously i can't claim to know for certain the mentality behind those involved here but i'm just making an assumption is all its important to understand though that what is logical to you or me may seem hihgly illogical to someone more intelligent or aware than us i am not perfect and i'd even go as far as to say i'm ignorant of many things but at least i can say now that i'm opening up to my ignorance so i can cure it to some degree
d. "This isn't evidence for the illuminati" i agree by itself it is not but the great thing about all of these events is that all of them are connected like a jigsaw puzzle and piece by piece they paint a larger picture of what is going on imo |
a. I say "important" because the WTC was a pretty big center for worldwide commerce, but that isn't really important in this discussion.
It is illogical because there is far to large of a leap between the evidence and the conclusion.
Forgive me for not reading all of this thread...its fairly crazy at times.
b. I didn't say symbols are meaningless, I said that if they are put in a meaningless context, then they don't always hold that meaning. An image isn't always a "symbol"...not every pyramid holds the context of the illuminati's pyramid and not every cube holds the symbolism of the masons. Cubes and pyramids and triangles are immensely common shapes, so we cant impart this meaning unto them every time they appear.
c. Most of the evidence these illuminati supporters follow is propagated by youtube conspiracy theorists. If the Illuminati actually exists, I'd be willing to bet that it is nothing like what most people think. I am not going to dispute the possibility that the illuminati exists, I am just saying that a lot of this stuff is ridiculous and most of this "evidence" is strung out of context (as has already been shown a few times in this thread).
d. Using the puzzle metaphor, the illuminati is like a one hundred puzzles mixed together, with a bunch of paranoids yelling that all the pieces fit into some crazy picture, when really you are just jamming pieces of cardboard together and pretending everything fits. As I said before, what the illuminati actually is (if it exists) is just one of those puzzles in the mix, but it has been blurred beyond meaning by all these crazy conspiracy theories. The illuminati cannot be debated as a whole, because theres too much extraneous junk mixed in and labeled "illuminati" to figure out what anything actually is.
Most of these conspiracy theorists are making tremendous leaps of logic and as a self proclaimed "critical thinker", that just isn't logical. The quickest way between two points is a straight line, not some ridiculous twisted pattern, embracing all of the world's problems.
