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Soriku said:

FYI o_O.Q seems to be taking the position of "The Bible condones slavery so God condones slavery [assuming the Bible is true and he's real]" which may lead to "I don't want to worship this (probably fake) God".

Also when people say relgion conflicts science, they usually mean the specific doctrines of each religion conflict, not the mere fact that religion allows for a freedom of belief.

IMO Henry you're not really taking this in context, when one person is assuming this or that religion is true (just for argument's sake), and you're taking this with the position that none of it is real (or at least the segments about God or gods, and how they might condone certain actions). So it leads to weird conflict of ideas when you're not really meeting each other head on.

My issue with that method is Religions are based on faith, their is nothing rational or factual about them. Thus, at least to me, it makes no sense to try and apply a rational argument to them. Its the equivalent of trying to disprove a statement in Hamlet by contradiction.

Furthemore, even if certain doctrines conflict with Science, as I've shown that Religions are subjective, those doctrines can be disregarded, Yes people can pick and choose and thats what they have been doing is what I'm saying. Look at Lutherans vs Catholics, they reject certain doctrines of either sect, so its not much of a stretch to say that people can reject them if they wish, and if that is thee case then its their fault that they accepted the accepted immoral or crimanal beliefs in the first place.

In other words, you don't have to hate homosexuals to be a Christian. Christianity, or any other Religions in general don't force people to do bad things, its people who decide what they do.



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