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o_O.Q said:

At this point I'm not even really sure what we're talking about now but it seems to me though that you're insulting theists 

"If you do not have enough mental fortitude to decide your own values"

That is the point of theism that a set of values is used by a set of people and sure there will be some differences in interpretation bur from what I've experienced for the most part the values are universal across a group

Incorrect. There is no "point" of theism, its merely describes what theistic religions are, a set of beleifs and values that entails the belief of a higher power., all of that extra crap is just baseless assumption.

there are non-theistic religions as well: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=non-theistic+religion&l=1

Religions are subjective (up to interpretation by nature), the only thing that is universal is the core beliefs and values themselves. You keep tacking on all this extra crap to make it seem like religion itself is bad, when its is literally just an intangiable human construct belief system.

And now you're saying Im insulting theists?

You are the one ignorantly assuming that all theists don't have the mental fortitude to decide their own values as if deciding to believe in Christinaity or any other Religion is unfathomable. Making sweeping generallizations because all you see are the extremist and don't have the rational thought to divorce a persons actions with the values they claim to have, can't even question why someone would molest children and claim to be a servant of a religion that expressely forbids it.

If you don't have the mental fortitude, you can be brainwashed by any system of belief whether it be Nilhism, Atheism, Theism, Etc.

And I don't understand how anyone using rational thinking would find it hard to believe that people abusing their power is not unique to religion.

Seriously, you claim that you feel that we could be in the dream of some kind of higher being and yet you can't open your mind to the possiblity that People do bad things because they want to?



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