X1 will never catch or match PS4 sales, it is a misfired product.

[Dr.Henry_Killinger]

Dark Chaos said:

Intrinsic said:

Dark Chaos said:

Winning for who?? For shareholders? For gamers? Right now both consoles have great games and I would argue the X1 has the better exclusives. Also in terms of profit the Xbox division has been more profitable for the past couple of years.

So how is Sony winning? By sales? Do you think MS cares if Sony outsells them if they are making money will Sony doesn't.

Guess I have seen them all. 

Firstoff, this thread is (was) about if the X1 will ever catch or match the PS4 sales. I like most others have said it wouldn't and have gone on to explain why we think so. But you seem to not actually be talking about the sales thing at all, you seem to be saying that MS doesn't care if sony's PS4 sells more consoles and thus "wins" this console generation. Yet you talk about the MS divisions profits. Do you have any idea how those profits come by? 

But yh, MS doesn't care.

The PS4 will outsell the X1, im not arguing that. I'm arguing the fact if that means whether a console is a success or not. The X360 was a success and I believe the X1 in the long run will be a success.

The profitability excuse is not only baseless but incorrect. Both systems are sold for a profit, but that excuse is only made when the goalposts are moved because the console you support is not in first.