spemanig said:
Soundwave said:
spemanig said:
Soundwave said:
spemanig said:
Soundwave said:
spemanig said:
No one interested in a handheld, especially Nintendo fans, is going to buy a $160 periferal to play it on a TV. That will sell less. And I never said it was a "PS4 killer." In fact, it won't be. It won't need to be. It'll be a cheaper Nintendo console meant to cater to Nintendo gamers. Nintendo will create more IPs catering towards a western audience and have a self sustaining ecosystem. It will strive off Nintendo's fans and be more profitable for it, while gaining new fans. They will invest heavily in creating multiple western first party studios and they will expand business that way. Just like Disney, just like Apple, and just as they said they would.
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So a sub-PS4 console for $300 released when the PS4 is probably $300 (perhaps less) is going to appeal to .... who? Outside of the same Nintendo fan that buys every Nintendo console?
$160-$170 to start could eventually be $99.99 ... if I meant I could play Nintendo games in 1080P on my TV, I'd be willing to bet such a device would probably in the end outsell the Wii U and GCN at least.
I get the want for a more powerful Nintendo machine and for Nintendo to double down on making all these cool new Western exclusives ... but honestly I think we know deep down, Nintendo is not thinking the same thing.
Mac and iPhone are completely disparate platforms ... I can't run BioShock Infinite from my Mac on my iPad, not even close. Most programs don't translate back and forth. I think there will be MORE than 2 hardware types, Iwata has raised this possibility twice now, probably a handheld, a tablet, a microconsole, maybe even something else all playing the same games.
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People who haven't gotten a new system yet. And the way the PS4 is selling, it won't get a price drop for a long time. You cut your price when you're loosing sales.
No one else thinks like you. No one's going to pay even $50 to stream their handheld games onto their TV. This isn't a "want." More powerful hardware sells more in this day. If the Wii U launched two years earlier and without the gamepad, it would be doing exponencially better than it is on literally all fronts.
I'm not talking about playing games on the ipone and mac. You can't do that because there isn't a mouse and keyboard on the iphone. I'm talking about why people by an iphone. Music and apps. Iphone apps mostly work on the mac and vice versa. There are exclusive things that give both value, but they have a symiotic relationship like the new consoles will. No tablet or micro console except maybe in China.
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Personally I'd love a super-duper 4K capable Nintendo console in 2016.
However, I think we'll see in a couple of years that what I've said was right (even if it's not what I personally would want as option 1).
When more details about the Wii started to come out, a lot of people in the Nintendo community reacted with denial/outright anger to anyone who said the Wii/Revolution was going to be only moderately more powerful than a GameCube. It had to be close to a 360/PS3 and lots of people didn't want to accept the truth, but Nintendo went in a different direction, and I think that's going to happen again.
I think actually in 5-6 years, Nintendo will be a dramatically different company, one that's branched out considerably from just video games. The Wii U failure and the decline of the handheld market is going to have repurcussions for years and years.
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A PS4 powered system in 2016 wouldn't be considered powerful.
It won't be right. Nintendo knows that selling an underpowered console won't work anymore. They're not going to do what made their last arguably two consoles fail. They'll still be fully focused on video games. Sony and Microsolf aren't less video game focused because of their other businesses. Neither will Nintendo.
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We'll see in 3-4 years I guess. I think you are in for a surprise though just like a lot of Nintendo fans were initially stunned at the decision to make the Wii just a modestly souped up GameCube chip.
Big changes are coming. Honestly I think Nintendo will generally just wash its hands of the home console entirely, really 3 of their 4 last consoles have dissapointed (relatively speaking) sales wise, 4 of the 5 have suffered steep declines from the previous gen, and barring some Wiimote like genius idea (which probably come around maybe once every 10-15 years if you're lucky) they haven't been able to stem that tide at all.
I think MS will bail out on a next-gen console too ... I suspect they will opt to create a game streaming service based around XBox Live next time out that works without a console. I wouldn't be stunned if Sony is the only one that makes a true next-gen console successor in the traditional way of thinking. But even there, Playstation 5 sure ... Playstation 6 ... I think won't happen. Consoles will eventually die out.
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Nintendo won't bow out of making consoles. There will always be a market and it's growing. Home consoles are Nintendo's bread and butter. Nintendo did the wii because that was the smart thing to do. This isn't.
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Your kids will laugh at you when you tell them you used to have to buy a seperate box to play video games on your TV and you have to drive to the store to pay $60 for a physical disc copy of a game. There will be an end to the home console eventually. Nintendo did Wii because serendipity blessed them with a genius idea that was the perfect product for that time. It's lightning in a bottle, and it's an impossible formula to repeat.
Without that, I don't think Nintendo has much of a future in the home console business. Every Nintendo console from the NES onwards with the exception of the Wii has seen a declining audience for 20+ straight years now. The writing is on the wall here, of course as fans we are often the last ones to see it because we don't want to see it.
