What does Putin want with Ukraine

[Mnementh]

Nem said:

Mnementh said:

Nem said:

I am convinced that are leaders in europe that are honestly concerned about the humanitarian situation in Ukraine. Of course, their duty is for the people of their country though. It doesnt mean they are these inhumane people you paint them out to be. None of these people will be in power in 10 years, they dont have any nefarious agenda. Thats not something that can be said about the current leader of russia.

And you call others easily manipulated.

Your reply made no sense. You think every country has rulers that are coniving and plotting? Every single country in the EU? I am sure the german and franch ones are, but thats also cause they have the control. The rulers of smaller countries in the EU have rulers that dont need to play that game. Your one sided view or precedents justify the means is very skewed.

That and these conspiracy theories are far fetched. Without proof its very difficult to believe some of the convenient reports. If Puttin goes to war based on that, he wont be any better than Bush.

Again, I never claimed Putin is better than Bush, in the contrary. But if you can't see the western influence (and even with different agendas from EU and US, even in my opinion ifferent agendas by different european countries) and if you can't see that western media is reporting one-sided and basically doing a propaganda-job - then I don't know. Yes, maybe some of the smaller EU-countries have no interest in the Ukraine and are acting honest. The bigger countries for sure do not - otherwise there would be much more possiblities to help people in the world. I only say Africa. And no, bombs aren't helping.