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mai said:

Sharu said:

"Nation" cannot exist 2 years and then dissapear. If you'd investigate further, you'd see that from 1918 till 1920 on the territory of current Ukraine existed 16 different 'countries'. 
So of course, its not so simple, but to call a Nation something which existed only 2 years during total annihilation of Russian empire - its a bit too much.

Technically nation could exist within various nation-states, or inside another nation-state, like Poles in Russian Empire (you won't deny they are nation). But truth be said, Ukraine is indeed a failed attempt to buildl a nation, I won't bring up the topic on who was or is trying to build a nation out of Ukraine, but what we see now is a yet another failed attempt in building an Ukrainian nation, and every damn time it ends with unmitigated nationalism.

I agree. A multiethnic country like the Ukraine is, can only exist if the rights of all groups are respected. If that's not the case, it is doomed to split up, usually with a lot bloodshed involved.



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