Zod95 said:
Also? The sentence before was an argument by itself?
How can you make that statement?! Ok, I will give you the chance of showing evidence about that. Do you have it?
What difference do you make between digital and non-digital?
2D and 3D are a matter of semantics?! Are you feeling ok?
This doesn't vilify anyone and you can see it the way you want it. But facts are facts, that's what the OP is focused on. And the fact is that Nintendo games, in general, shifted to vocal music later than their competitors. How do you show to any person that it's "fairly undeniable" that Nintendo puts a lot of effort into their soundtracks? |
1. If you would like me to get into the actual definition of the word evolution and all the subtext included in it I will... do you honestly want to get into that debate (turns out I went into a bit of it anyways, oops)? For example, everything that is around today has been "evolving" for the same amount of time and as such, everything as it is today is equally evolved. Therefore, you cannot say that one thing today is more evolved than another thing today because that doesn't actually make any sense. If you start getting into metrics for calculating change, you are getting into some very fuzzy and subjective stuff and thus cannot be argued as fact...
2. Its logic...I have no way of looking into a chronological history of video game music and looking into all the games created by everybody, seeing what the first game that used music with recorded vocals is and comparing it to the first music that used recorded instruments. Think about it for a second, both recorded vocals and recorded instruments were not able to be played until the technology allowed it and the technology allowed both of those to occur at the same time (because both are recorded in the same way). See my below statement about digital music.
3. Digital music is very different than recorded instruments. For one, digital music is created by a computer vs instruments being recorded and played back. I think the difference here is pretty obvious. Additionally, changing from digitally created music to recorded music happened when the technology allowed it to happen.
4. For someone who frequently accuses people of misreading their quotes, you tend to do a lot of misreading. I said that the 2D vs 3D evolution debate is a matter of semantics, not that 2D vs 3D is a matter of semantics. This essentially means that the debate is centered around the definition of evolution, which by its actual definition, implies that everything that is around today is equally evolved. Applying that to video games, you would say that every 2D game that is around today is just as evolved as the 3D games that are around today. To say otherwise would be making a value judgement and as such cannot be said to be fact or truth or objective.
5.I would like some examples of the competors that used (non digitized) vocals in songs. I once again have no way of looking into every video game song ever made but on what basis are you making these claims? I can think of Nintendo games that used vocals in the GC era, though I haven't played many N64 games...
Also, Anybody who knows anything about music could tell you that this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNqEfB6IYmE) was no simple feat, and definitely not objectively more "simple" than this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0hV3dea9g).
