Iwata: Why Nintendo Games Aren't Works of Art

[Mythmaker1]

Kwaidd said:

Mythmaker1 said:

I'm saying if one is better-designed than the other, then that will show through while playing it. And that the artistry, therefore, is a factor in how much I appreciate and how well I regard a game. Not the only factor, but a factor.

And don't be too quick to equate "fun" and "enjoyment." You can enjoy something because it's fun, but it doesn't have to be fun for one to enjoy it. That's true for anything, and video games are no exception.

you are really grasping at straws here.  When was the last time anyone enjoyed playing a game that was not fun?  Because that is what we are talking about here...games, not a Rembrandt or a Chopin.   "I spent 60 dollars on a game and it wasn't even remotely fun, but I really enjoyed it."  C'mon.

Consider movies. Are there movies that people enjoy even though they aren't fun? Like, say...

Horror

Documentaries

Drama

"Art" films

to name a few.

The point is, fun isn't the only way to get your kicks out of a piece of entertainment. Most games have an element of fun, but the fun can be a secondary, even a tertiary appeal for the player.