Do we really need to kill animals??

[Mnementh]

zero129 said:

Mnementh said:

Nice. They are so friendly to each other. The friendly chimpanzees:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1880229,00.html

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10329-007-0062-1

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/retrieve/pii/S0960982207008019

So, chimpanzees hunt other apes (and eat them), they even hunt other chimpanzees and they use self-made weapons to do that. Yes, they are very human-like: they kill.

To change your dog that it doesn't do that, if not ordered by humans, our ancestors breed it to be an obedient slave. As you always compare humans and animals: how would you like human pets, breeded and tamed to be obedient slaves?

If you really think, using animals breeded for slavery for your joy is OK, but eating animals is not, then I think you didn't really have thought that matter through.

And get me right: I don't say vegans are wrong and should eat meat. But you should not claim, that people eating meat doing something wrong and should stop, if you didn't really thought that matter through to it's ends.

Simple fact you shouldnt own a chimp as a pet and treat it as such. Would you like to be kept as a pet?. Monkeys and other wild animals are very ready to look after themselfs and in the case of monkeys are smart and think alot like us.

Except my dog is not an obedient slave. doesnt do anything i tell him only what he wants. And i just hope if aliens do visit us that they see us as equals to them but if not i would be more happy with them breading us and feeding us and caring for us like Dog owners then sending us to slaughter houses to be killed and bread to be killed. Also who is to say humans are not being bread to be obedient slaves already?.

When i was a kid we used to have lots of fields and places to go play in. We didnt have to worry about kidnappers or staying clean. we also didnt have to worry much about germs. I have played in mug ate food without washing my hands and i have never really been sick a day in my life.

Kids today doesnt have half the freedoms i and im sure many other kids born into the 80's had.

So i ask you again who is to say we are not already being bread into obedient slaves?? do the masses not believe everything the media tells them? do they not sit comfie in their own little bubbles while strictor laws get put on them? i ask you again are we not obident slaves??. And if not yet are we not being let into a world where we will be watched and checked 24/7? where you will not be allowed to speak out in fear of going to jail? are we not obedient slaves?

1 question how am i breading dogs and making them into things they should of never been? how is anyone alive today breading dogs and making them into something they shouldnt be?. Your are comparing something that was done to dogs years ago to something thats going on today! News flash its not the same thing!. 1 was bread to help man and wasnt bread to be slaughtered. The thing that we are talking about and whats going on today is the Mass Production of Livestock thats being highly miss treated, live's all their lifes in pain and suffering until the day they are finally killed.

Its not the same thing!.

Look i understand people like to eat meat, I understand the will always be people that like to eat meat as its something we have always done (Its one of the reasons we started breading dogs in the first place to help us Hunt etc!). But that was years ago when we needed to hunt for our food and we only killed and ate what we needed.

Today massive amounts way more then is needed (imo, meat should be more expensive and a luxury item) Are killed with their meat going to waste and never being ate.

Today people have a choice to make this stop but i guess we are very good obedient slaves..

Well, if you are OK with the fact, that dogs were breeded over generations to be your pet today, then OK. I personally wouldn't think that's Ok if it happens to us, but at least you are consistent.