How to Destroy an Athiests in a argument! (Updated with poll)

[Mnementh]

Kasz216 said:

Mnementh said:

Kasz216 said:

Mnementh said:

Kasz216 said:

Well unless you consider the secret German Documents about plans after the war... which were "Destroy and replace christianity and replace it for "Worship" for the german state....

So the plan was: to install a religion. But not christianity. So far I thought it was a discussion about theism and atheism. Now you put a 'germanity' against christianity. But both are completely theistic.

Not a real religion no.  As in, the plan was to turn peoples worship and devotion to the state.  Like extreme nationalism.

The most obvious example that comes to mind is the "USA!" USA!" chanting people.

Define religion. I bolded two words, that may help you achieve this.

So... then in your opinion, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are all relgions then?

This site has shown that plenty of people worship and show devotion to those companies.

I mean if so... we're just argueing about a definition, at that point making this arguement pointless.

Though i'd note then... pretty much anythign can be a religion... and the only way you'll ever get rid of it, is to kill anyone who has enough sentience to think.

Yeah, in my opinion the extreme worship to some companies has religious character. I only say church of Apple, that is even more extreme than the worship for video-game-companies.

Yes, many discussion are in the end about definitions.

And I have no interest in getting rid of religions. So I have no need to kill anyone.

All I want is to stop the exaggerated hate against atheism and to counter some strange arguments, that seem to prove religions, a creator or something while losing all logic in the process. In the end a real religion cannot be proved or disproved. It's all about believing somethng. Thats why it is also named belief or faith.

Some religions can be disproved, but usually only because they claim some stupid stuff. Like: the gods sit on this mountain - ok, we can go looking. But most religions can in their core not be proved or disproved.