What can be done with Isreal? Realistically!

[MrBubbles]

the2real4mafol said:

MrBubbles said:

the2real4mafol said:

MrBubbles said:

Mummelmann said:

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Mummelmann said:
MrBubbles; so the holocaust excuses everything Israel does to someone else? That's an old and weak argument.

no one made that argument but you can continue to delude youself if you wish to be an ignoramus.

I hardly consider myself the ignorant party in this discussion. Insults aside; it was your intention to raise sympathy and have people look away from Israeli terror actions by posting that image, that much was clear. Its justification. Two wrongs does make a right etc.

it was pretty clear even to the person i posted the image to, that my problem was making comparisons between the this situation and that of the holocaust.   do you know why?   probably not...for reasons i stated already.   

are you even that much better than me for what i said earlier, i don't think you are not at all, for what you and the photo said, lets accept we both went a bit too far on that one. You clearly believe in an "eye for a eye, tooth for a tooth".

But I still think Israel goes too far itself. Palestine injured a few people with a missile, while Israel retaliates with a full strike killing 100's of INNOCENT citizens. don't you see a problem there? That sort of reaction is terrorism but somehow it is acceptable for them to do this. And this sort of thing has been going on for years, seriously how many people on both sides must die before a solution is made?

i actually have no idea what point you are making?   i thought your comment innapropriate and im tired of the comparisons between the palestinians and everyone who suffered the atrocites (which extend beyond just the jews) or how gaza is a concentraction camp and all the other bs.   it annoyed me and i showed you actual suffering of the holocaust.   because its not something that should be talked about lightly or just tossed about.  (also some of your alleged facts are wrong, but w/e).   i accepted that you didnt mean to use it in such a way and passed over your comment entirely to let it drop. 

ps.  yes i am better than you and it has nothing at all to do with this.  or anything at all even remotely related.  

pps.  the total fatalities in gaza are still sitting under 20 since the start of this operation  and theyve made a couple hundred strikes and the iron dome has successfully intercepted over a 100 rockets that were heading towards populated areas.

here is the iron dome in action successfully protecting civilians http://youtu.be/8kAyqbKwd1o

ppps.  no one needs to die.  if hamas and their sick brethren in gaza  didnt want to murder all the jews then no one would be dying right now.

I honestly forgot how bad the holocaust actually was, so just compared it to gaza without thinking about it, which was dumb. But i do know it is a very serious topic.

But back to gaza, operations like this have been going on for years literally. For example, in 2008, 1400 palestinians died from an operation just like the one now, even though only 10 israelis died at that time, which is way over done. And this happened many times, but yet the USA, UK etc. just ignore it, even though it's clearly wrong. Even if i was Israeli, I would condemn the government for doing such horrid acts. 

 

cast lead was different than whats been happening with pillar of w/e they are calling it.   ideally they dont even want to go in at all.  they can exert much greater precision and control with air strikes and the like.   with the iron dome in place they might not even need to go in because they can stop so many of the rockets that threaten them.   the most probable way for a civilian(in gaza) to die in this conflict is from seconadary explosions (militants store weapons in residential areas, the israelis use low explosive weapons because they dont need to use stronger ones.  it hits the weapons the weapons blow up thus damaging a great deal more than the missile could ) or from militant rockets and mortars falling short.

israel also wants to avoid a ground offensive because of egypt being controlled by hamas friends in the muslim brotherhood.  one of their initial targets was the head of the hamas military wing.  guy was a terrorist war criminal.  he was even responsible for the brutalisation of fatah in gaza, so i dont imagine abbas is all that upset about it.

this was all set off by an anti tank rocket hitting an israeli jeep on the border injuring three soldiers escalating up to this point.   in 48 hours before the operation over 100 rockets were fired into israel.