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sperrico87 said:

Two points I want to make here, guys:

A. If you spoke with the families of the mentally handicapped, would any of them say they'd rather have had their child killed and not given a chance?

B. If you spoke with the mentally handicapped, would any of them say they'd rather have been terminated while still in the womb instead of loved and cared for by their families, however imperfect they may be?

Just a final point about abortion in general... how many more people here on VGChartz would we be having these kinds of deep discussions with had 40 million + people not been killed in the womb before being given a chance to have a life?

Ask yourselves....if you were handicapped, would you rather have been cast aside as an inconvenience, or would you rather your parents took a chance and brought you into this world and took as good of care of you as they could?

A. When I was in the womb, I was only a hypothetical person. There were so such thing as 'me' until my conciousness got going. There is no point in comparing imaginary people to real people. Every sperm that is lost when people masturbate could have been a human, do you feel bad for them (or are you one of the three guys that doesn't masturbate?) How about when couples freeze fertilized eggs for later use but ends up not using them?

B. You're comparing hypothetical people to real people here. Once they cease to be hypothetical, they become invaluable. But while they are still hypothetical, they are not.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get across with your final point. When women have the option to have abortions, it leads to children being born in more planned, and more thought through circumstances, and thus with a better chance of a happy life.

Again, are you assuming I exist in that question (conciousness) or are you talking about me being a hypothetical person.

I'll counter with a question. Isn't not aborting an accidental/severely handikapped child the same as killing your future planned, healthy baby, in favour of another with less chance of a good life?



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