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spurgeonryan said:
We have all seen The Last of Us. Even an almost Total Nintendo only player like myself. The devs of that game have done some amazing things! The Wii U should be at least a tad bit stronger than the PS3. The question is how much more can visuals put out? Did the wii U have to do anything else? I do not believe so. Gilgamesh put out a Unreal 4 vs. PS3 graphics thread a while back. There was not much difference. Nintendo did not have to win the Graphics and power race because the race ran out of gas itself. Where else is there to go with visuals? It will be fin.

i wonder if you seriously still think there is no big difference between best ps3 games and unreal engine 4 because everything we have nowadays, even pc games like battlefield 3 on ultra which looks better than any ps3 game, looks like a joke compared to unreal engine 4. sometimes i would love to have eyes like you or other people, i would never have to think about better graphics because i wouldn't see any difference^^  when i see the first second of unreal engine 4 i'm just like "omg what a difference" haha

and please don't say "but beyond has great faces" because it has nothing else which would need power (sure other graphics in the game are good as well) and if you regularly play a game with great lighting on pc and see last of us then, you recognize huge flaws there. maybe not if you see pictures or if you don't play these games by yourself but if you wish to have the feeling of a real world, like a "real new york" or looking real in a fantasy world (which means looking still like fantasy but believable), these things are very important.

i remember when i played ocarina of time when it came out for n64, i saw a wall and thought the wall looks like real, i couldn't believe this wall could look better. if i would see the wall nowadays i believe i couldn't stop to laugh.