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MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:

Anything can happen in the future, I can only make predictions off opinions and trends, and the most important thing is we both respect each others opinion, and we have intellectual backing to it. I disagree with you on PS3 having it's strongest November ever. Even with the price cut, PS3 sales are trailing 2010 figures, and the gap is growing bigger. MW3 might be the biggest CoD open, but on PS3 it won't be much different then Black Ops (look at those pre-order threads by VGC, MW3 is 3 weeks ahead of pre-orders on 360, but on PS3 it's almost on par with BO). Uncharted 3 will be big, but GT5 was bigger last year, and well I don't see any reason for why you think 2011 will be bigger then 2010 for PS3. It will be a strong year, but what power PS3 has in Americas is starting to weaken already, and November sales are heavily influenced by Americas sales.

uh babalou? 

i make predictions on what could happen cause trends change.

yea yea yea intellectual backing respect blah blah blah. stop using big words out of that dictionary you have sitting in your lap! just because i use the word enigma you want to look in the dictionary for a big word i can't spell! what is this intellectual thing you speak of?

just kidding. needed some humor lol.

I won't underestimate the PS3 with price cut if you don't underestimate a potential Kinect price cut, or already announced Kinect bundles (Kinect-360 for $300!). I think this will also appeal to the more casual audience.

um where have you been? i've contradicted most everything i've said, and underestimated the big3. srry bud but your going to have to do it for both of us and no your not being Rol'd but i am 10X more sarcastic lol.

I'm an Uncharted fan too. It's a different fanbase then MW3. Heck Halo is a different fanbase then MW3.

? agreed.

I hope ME3 boosts 360 sales. So far it's looking to be the biggest game of the franchise, and this is my favorite IP this gen.

i'm hoping it boost Wiiu sells lol! now your being Rol'd lol! more humor.

Next gen is comming too early for you? Games are already stagnating, and both the PS3 and 360 are showing their limitations. I mean look at all the big games of 2011. MW3, UC3, Gears 3, Forza 4, InFamous 2, Killzone 3, LBP 2, Elder Scrolls V, Battlefield 3 (this is new to console this gen to be fair though), Halo: CEA, FFXIII-2, Dark Souls, Crysis 2, Portal 2, Dead Space 2, Zelda 12?, Batman 2, Mario Kart 7, Super Mario Land 3, Assassin's Creed 2.5-II, Pokemon 5, Zelda remake, starfox remake, Catherine, Deus Ex, Dead Island, and that's all I can think of. 20 sequels, 1 remake, 2 ports, and 3 new IP's.

next gen is coming yo early for me.

Next gen couldn't come soon enough....... BTW WTH? I can view the top 50 pre-orders? Can you do that? no i can't

next gen is coming to early for me, and thats the bottomline cause Stone Cold said so. (insert theme music here) 

I think exclusive software for 2012 will be minimal on both the PS3/360. MS, Sony, and Ninty have to start focusing on new consoles. They will only do the minimum to please current owners. 1 big game is all I expect from each manufacturer, and MS already announced Halo.

i still count 10 PS3 exclusives from Sony and 4 projects that are said to be worked on for a projected release of yr end 2012. and if that happens then Sonys lineup will look in number of last yr where they had 13 exclusives i think.

I think Last Guardian will be bigger then Twisted Metal, but they will both sell about the same. 1-2 million is my prediction, which will be sad for Last Guardian (judging from prior games, it deserves better).

you should see the tears i'm crying.

As for Ms discontinuing 360, I don't see it happening. They supported XB1 to the very end, and supported XBL on X-Box well into the 360 years. Even now, new 360's are still fully backward compatible. I can't say the same for Sony or Nintendo.

ok i'll give you Nintendo but you know why Sony took out BC so don't go there. MS new one thing this gen and thats that they had to bring it and they brought everything with them except windows to 360 and 90% of there ip, but the os they do have works perfect on 360.

but if they want nextbox to be more current they should upgrade every nextbox when they make a new windows os but also make it optional.

I don't think GT5 will be bundled with the console at all. Only retailers will make store bundles, so I don't expect GT5 sales to jump. GT5 is outdated, and bundling it could hurt Sony's image. Weather or not you agree, Forza 4 is a better game, and bundling GT5 could very well hurt the PS3's image.

forza4? did i mention Forza once in this thread?

where did you get ooooooooooo that other thread! um why bring that here? i thought sure that topic was dead! naw don't tell me your still in that thread! 

look i was speaking from the perspective of what i saw and heard along with asking questions cause the 2 games in question i have yet to play. i want both, and will get both, but from the perspective of a friend who just recently bouhgt Forza4; his opinion is that GT5 is miles ahead of Forza4 eventhough Forza looks better. he said something about forza having stupid AI?

srry but mod nation racers is the only racing game i'll have for some time, and is allot more fun then GT5 and forza4.

also this topic was dead when i said to you in that thread "unless you have something more to add i won't becoming back to this thread" and you seemed fine when i said it. 

i will hear no more of this Forza v GT talk? it ends here! its like drugs? just say no!

I think Sony would rather bundle UC3 for 2012. It's newer, unique to the PS3, and I think it's more of a system seller.

hey they both may get bundled.



We both underestimate several things, but it's better to underestimate, then over.

Are you sure you can't view the top 50 pre-orders? Do you have any requests then?

If Sony wanted to, they could have kept BC at a cost. Simple as that. I feel they wanted to kill the PS2 because they needed fans to move onto the PS3. It;s also a cash grab to re-release PS2 games in HD/3D for PS3.

For Nextbox. I heard it will be built with the Windows 8 OS. I also hear that Windows 8 will be able to play 360 disks. This could mean a price cut in XBL, or it could mean nothing at all.

NONONONONO

I brought Forza 4 in to make a separate point.

GT5 is an old game, with an old car roster. Would MS bundle Forza 3 this year? No. If Sony bundles GT5 with consoles, they will bundle it this fall to catch some of the car attention Forza made, but that's it.

That was my point, quality doesn't matter, guess I was tired when I posted that.

Forza AI is limited by the 360. It's not bad when you are racing, but when you hire a driver, or crash an AI it's just plain hilarious. For the game it's great, and I think Forza 4 is miles ahead of GT5.....but lets not talk about this. You should pick up one, or both games, they are my favorite for each system.

UC3 is more likely to get bundled in 2012, but you never know Sony could bundle GT5 this year. Just not next, the car roster will be too dated.

but...but... I said NO to drugs....the other kids with the drugs just didn't listen.



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