dsage01 said:
ioi said:
dsage01 said:
ioi said:
You can think what you want to think.
You do understand that these are pre-orders at this point in time? That weekly pre-orders for a game can go up or down at any point in time and often increase significantly closer to the release date? You also realise that different platforms and different genres have different pickup rates for pre-orders? You can't just compare the absolute pre-orders as of today from game to game and genre to genre and expect to learn anything meaningful. What you need to do is compare games to predecessors or similar game types over similar timeframes.
Your general attitude and comments like "where can you find more BS preorder numbers"make you come across as pretty immature.
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Okay I'm immature now? Maybe I shouldn't have said where can you find more BS numbers than this but serioulsy every week for at least a few months now me and other people have been complaining our ass of to maybe have some sort of justification to "why do all of us think that these numbers are pretty screwed up and how are these numbers accurate". But admit it you did undertrack Black Ops preorders last year on both versions and it looks like your doing the same thing over with Modern Warfare 3. And I don't understand how Assassin's Creed Revelations are so far apart from each other? Under 92k on PS3 and over 240k on the Xbox 360? Don't you think that's a little off and that too is a title that was being showcased at Sony's E3 and is being advertised for Sony? Now I do rememeber someone saying RPG games usually have high preorders and the actual sales aren't that high. And that happened iwth games like Fable, Mass Effect, and Dragon age. But then again the biggest PS3 beta ever leads to a drop in preorders. Now do you want to explain that to me?
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We can debate all day long why numbers aren't as high or low as we'd like them to be but this is what the data shows I'm afraid. Maybe people who shop at the stores we track have different buying habits to yourself or to what you believe the population to have, who knows?
I could lend my opinion / analysis on all of the points you mentioned and explain possible reasons why the data is how it is, it's all down to opinion really, but this is what the raw measured data shows.
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Well I'm sorry this preorder data isn't really as accurate as we would like it to be. It's no where near the 10% either. And your eariler data has proved this statement really well. I don't really need to explain. Anyways we can argue all day about this it's not like the data will suddenly change or be more accurate.
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dsage, just look at the preorder numbers from actual websites as well. They are mostly showing exactly the things you are claiming are "impossible" The only thing you seem right about are that the two assassins creeds aren't as far apart this week. I checked the preorder data of gamestop, walmart, bestbuy, and amazon. They almost all have uncharted 3 at very low preorder positions. They almost all have battlefield 3 for the 360 ahead of mw3 for the ps3. Again these are preorders for americas not first week sales ww.
The websites show current preorder sales, not total or even for a week but they are obviously showing that at least for today, not too many people are preordering uncharted 3, and more people are preordering battlefield 3 for the 360 than MW3 for the ps3. I'm not sure, but I think gamestop preorders are the most important because thats where the majority of americans preorder their games.
Gamestop preorders
http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=2b0,28-xu0,135
Battlefield 3 for the 360 is ahead of mw3 for ps3
Uncharted 3 is in around 45th place
AC for the 360 is in 6th place, for the ps3 its in 14th place.
Amazon (doesn't have preorder specific charts but you can still compare the numbers)
http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1
Battlefield 3 for the 360 is 36th best selling game
MW3 for the ps3 is 48th best selling game
Anything past number 100 is very insignificant but here
Uncharted 3 is 106th best selling game
AC:R for 360 is 304th. For ps3 its 394th
Bestbuy preorders
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17080&type=page&qp=cabcat0700000~~nf415||5072652d4f72646572&list=y&nrp=15&sc=gameToySP&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&usc=abcat0700000
Battlefield 3 for the 360 is number 8 while mw3 for ps3 is number 9
Uncharted 3 is number 12
Assassins Creed for 360 is number 22 for the ps3 is number 26
Walmart preorders
http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?tab_value=All&search_query=game&search_constraint=0&search_sort=5&ref=125866+501362&ic=48_0
MW3 ps3 is number 8 while battlefield 3 for 360 is number 13
Uncharted 3 for ps3 is number 46
AC is number 43 for 360 and 49 for the ps3.
