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Galaki said:
Acevil said:
CGI-Quality said:
Acevil said:
CGI-Quality said:

It definitely was a good post. Nintendo did a bit less innovating than I thought (though I won't deny that Sony seems to polish used ideas).


I think this whole thread is confusing the term innovation with invention. Seriously this whole thread, I been reading it over, and people are acting like they are one in the same. 

I'm not confused on it. Invention is something nobody has really done in the last 2 decades, but I'd agree that Nintendo has done the bulk of "innovating" of late. Just not on the level some make it out.


My Second Part:
Nintendo is innovators of the industry, as they take the best technology they seem fit, and try to make it work. While Sony is the innovators that typically see something that already works, and incorporate it.  

See the both are innovators, one can be considered more, but people on both side of the camps, Nintendo and Sony are jumping the gun in this thread. Nintendo also incorporates things that already work as well.

Add: Nintendo does deserve the innovation title, but sony and microsoft aren't bad too. I get annoyed, when sony fans act like Nintendo has no hand in sony releasing products ala playstation move (I find it funny, as well), and when nintendo fans act all high and mighty and treat innovation as invention. All three companies are innovative companies. Also the playstation move is an innovation, but an innovation that is direct result to the wiimote.  

You seem to be confused  yourself.

There are 3 phrases.

1. Creation

2. Innovation

3. Improvement

Creation is useless without Innovation. Improvement comes after that.

Nintendo is doing the hard part by taking risk and bundle the creations. Usually, it takes many creations(techs) to make a successful innovation. Sony then comes and and take what's been tried and true and further improve it.

That's not to say Sony doesn't try with innovation themselves. They did. Many times. But they just failed at making it mainstream(innovate).
An easy recent example that you all are aware of is the eyetoy.

In the end, we all benefit. Microsoft joining the fray is actually really good since the competition is what forces the prices lower. Lower prices means we can buy more games.


Improvements are still under the fine line of innovation. At least in what I been learning in the past couple of years. Pretty much around this saying taken from Wiki "The central meaning of innovation thus relates to renewal or improvement, with novelty being a consequence of this improvement." Also I think sony does a good job of innovation in the sense of what you mean as well. The incorporation of DVD and Blu-ray into a device, that also plays games (don't say PC) :P.