Hamas fires over 50 rockets into Israel

[MrBubbles]

Joelcool7 said:

MrBubbles said:

Joelcool7 said:

In all honesty I think that Israel, A)Should cease all expansions into the West Bank and work with Fatah to reach a final border agreement.  then B) Invade Gaza Strip again this time taking out Hamas's Government, after Israel is completely sure hamas's Government has been toppled, they allow Fatah forces into the streets of Gaza and promise to support the Palestinian authorities in the future if Hamas tries to take over again.

I think Israel should demand that any party who does not recognize a deal between Israel and the Fatah lead Government is unable to run in future elections. Israel ensures that extremist groups will be dealt with. Israel arms and helps train a Fatah Government force.

In the end Israel needs to take any ally it can get and Fatah could be just right for finally bringing peace to Israel. Of course Israel is going to have to make several concessions. But Hamas needs to be dealt with and an occupation won't do any good. The Palestinians need to get rid of Hamas themselves!

its unlikely they could actually reach an agreement with them.  israel should unilaterally set a fair border, push internationally to get the border recognized(if its a fair border they should be able to get some support for it), and then start withdrawing back to their own side.  

That would be great, however I doubt the international community and Israel could agree on how much land Israel is given. The international community has already told israel to freeze settlements, even the US did. But Israel showed they didn't care what the international community said.

In order for them to unilaterly draw a border they would have to make major concessions for the international community to view the border as legit. Even so they would have a very hard time convincing the UN that the new border was legit especially if they did not involve the Palestinians. The arab world would certainly not see the border as legit thats for sure.

I think Israel needs to work with anyone they can, in this case Fatah. They need to start making concessions and giving Palestinians some stuff that they might not want to part with. You can't always get everything your way in the real world.

the building is in towns and neighbourhoods that israel wouldnt give up anyways.  so there is no point for them to stop anyways.  its pointless to even discuss it since there was a freeze and the palestinians found other reasons to not come to the table.   they dont want to discuss it and therefore israel needs to act on its own.   its easier for them(politically) to not do it, of course.  they can continue to say how irrelevant it is because they have to partner to deal with and people accept it because its the truth. 

the palestinians and the rest of the arabs wont be happy regardless because they dont want the jews there anyways.  so israel needs to take a tough stance on the illegal settlements(the ones where settlers just wander off into the west bank and start building on their own)  and deal with the palestinians as they would an unruly child.  set the terms and follow through.